Info on QH pedigree

Can anyone give me more info on this horse’s pedigree? I know nothing about QH lines, so just looking for info on temperament, what the horse’s were bred to do, etc. The horse isn’t on All Breed and I don’t have an AQHA membership so I’ll post the links to the sire and dam’s individual pedigrees. Yes, horse I’m asking for is an old girl! Thanks.

Sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smoke+49

Dam: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/matt+sun

Sire is cow bred, working ranch. Mr Gunsmoke sired many cutting and reining horses. I actually owned a son of Mr Gunsmoke, he was our cutting horse.

Old breeding here, lots of of horses that produced horses on here later in life. Many of these are way more then 5 generations back and off the charts of many horses today. Stud has Leo on top and King on the bottom, not too shabbie for excellent working horses. Dams topside is TB, unless there’s a QH Man O War. Dam side also has pre AQHA Foundation stock when records were sketchy.

Is the horse in question the offspring of these two? The dam was born in 63, the sire in 70, how old is the horse you are asking about??? Can’t imagine a mare foaling past 20…

The dam isn’t right - the horse linked is a stallion, unless he is the dam’s sire?

The linked sire…Mr Gun Smoke is a famous western performance (reining/cutting/cow horse) sire based on the west coast. He was famous for being…hot, as in reactive. As in gun go boom. But that crossed very well on stallions whose get tended to be overly dull. Leo, King, Joe Moore are all famous foundation sires you can look up.

If that is actually the dam’s sire, Eternal Sun was a famous sire based in Michigan. He was a racehorse-turned-halter-horse sire from the 60s, had a more shapely look that moved away from the stocky bulldog type. These would have been bred for showing or halter.

Indeed, Matt’s Sun is a Stallion…missed that yesterday. Cannot be the dam.

What is the old girls registered name? That’s probably the only way anybody can look her up since the dam is wrong. Sire could be wrong too, maybe looking at grandparents there. How old is she supposed to be? 30 or so?

Ooh, can I hijack for a moment with my new girl? I hadn’t thought to ask here before until this thread came up!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pretty+chances

Thanks!

On the topside,Skipper W is a Foundation sire and origin of the Skipper and Skip names, very eager work partners, good on cattle. Sires damside includes Conclusive and his sire Impressive hence back to Three Bars (TB). Now, before jumping on the Impressive HYPP thing, it’s generations back and your guy is getting him via a female. Those were spectacular horses that could work and not slugs in the temperament department, weren’t for everybody. And, of course, some males fell over. Yours probably had the test as a condition of registry? Haven’t dealt with that for years. Should not be a concern and Impressive contributed some very good traits and it’s a nice mix with the Skippers.

On the dams side, Classic mix of Three Bars (TB) and King (AQHA# P-1, the Foundation sire) through the Poco horses. You find this King/Three Bars cross going back to horses like Doc Bar and other performance stars that became superstars in the breeding shed.

Closer up, not that familiar with most more recent relatives but the damside looks like they were intended for the track and the sires side for show careers,

I see he’s registered as sorrel? Out west that refers to a bright, lighter chestnut, often with chrome and that is a very consistent color in both the Skipper and Three Bars lines. I would except he’s a good worker, eager to please but no lap dog and not likely to suffer fools?

Hi! Sorry, when I tried posting the first time it didn’t show up so I tried rewriting and posting again. Still didn’t show up so I thought it wasn’t posting. Only after that did I realize I linked to a sire on the dam’s side instead of the dam. Duh! Couldn’t edit though since it didn’t pop up, and I haven’t been logged in on here since.

Mare’s registered name is Sue’s Last Call. I can’t look her up on AQHA as I’m not a member, but I had her pedigree saved in a notepad type doc from years ago and the format was all mixed up. She is a 1993 bay mare that belongs to family. Showed in halter at some QH shows a long time ago, I believe, and is now mostly retired due to a funny stifle and some arthritis. She’s a good, good mare. Wish I could have seen her when she was young and fit, but I’ve known her since she was in her mid-teens. She may be a walk/trot (well…super slow jog) mount for my son in the future because she’s SO broke.

I have this number next to her name in a document, may be her registration number 3275048

Her name may be Golden Sue Bars (1983)…looks like the youngest I have on dam side in this crazy mixed up document. Sire looks like Pines Cold Harbor (1986) since he’s the youngest on sire’s side. Sorry for the mixup!

I put her pedigree up on allbreedpedigree.

The close up generations are not very known, had to add many of those to the list.
There you can see how she is bred and the pictures of some of her ancestors:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sues+last+call

Well, the filters here won’t let a post with a link to all breed pedigree dot com thru.

If you type all that on google, you will go to their web site and I put SUES LAST CALL in there for you.

Thank you! How kind of you. I really appreciate it.