Inspection Newbie - Which Registry & In What Order?

[EverElite]

I have a TB mare I’d like to run through at least one warmblood registry in fall of 2020. The baby daddy wish list has guided me towards ISR/Oldenburg-NA and possibly AHS.

When considering multiple registries, some more competitive than others, how do you decide which one to shoot for first? My initial thought was to run her through ISR first, as from what I’ve gathered, they are a pretty OTTB-friendly registry. If the ISR inspection goes well, is that when it makes sense to go for AHS, a year later? Unfortunately, the 2020 AHS and ISR inspections in my area are only two days apart.

I guess my question is essentially: does it make sense to shoot for the less competitive registry first and test the waters, or should I shoot for AHS while the mare is in tip-top shape and curb the risk that a year from the ISR inspection, she won’t find a way to kill herself as horses are want to do…?

[TKR]

IF you think she is worth breeding and has all the attributes of making it worthwhile, do the AHS inspection. You will get a clearer point of view and a more respected registry for her foal IMO. The approval of the IRS would not mean much to me and doesn’t to many serious breeders.

[clint]

It is very difficult to get a TB mare approved AHS. I agree that Oldenburg/ISR is TB friendly, but they aren’t as well regarded as some other registries. I would take her GOV, which may be easier on TBs and is a well respected registry.

[Edgar]

Do AHS while she is in good shape, if she does not score high enough you can still do ISR next year since she does not have a foal this year but you wont have to because she will be graded for the Rhineland book at the same time and receive approval for one or both registries, its a two for one effort/price option.

[Bent_Hickory]

The best play is to take your TB mare to an AHS inspection. The AHS manages the American Rhineland Studbook (and the Hanoverian Verband manages the Rhineland Studbook in Germany too). When you take any mare for inspection by the AHS, she is also simultaneously considered for the Rhineland Studbook. Generally speaking, the Rhineland Studbook is more welcoming of outside blood, including TB, Arab, and other warmblood mares; whereas the AHS is pretty restrictive toward outside blood, only accepting the equivalent of “elite” or “premium” mares from these outside populations.

So if you take your TB mare (or for that matter, any outside mare) to the AHS, and for some reason, she doesn’t meet that “elite standard,” she will almost certainly meet the more general standards for the Rhineland Studbook (similar to the ISR and other WB registries). This gives your mare the chance to be entered into the AHS with an automatic fallback position of being entered into the less restrictive Rhineland Studbook for the cost and time of a single inspection – two birds with one stone if you will.

Stallions that are licensed with the AHS are also all licensed with the Rhineland Studbook so you shouldn’t have any problems with your stallion choice.

PLUS, fillies from a Rhineland-approved TB mare will get preferential treatment when these fillies are subsequently inspected by the AHS because Rhineland blood will be considered the same as Hanoverian blood and these fillies will not need to meet the “elite standard” for entry into the AHS studbooks.

ETA: The Rhineland Studbook is not the same as RPSI, which was recently merged with the Westfalen Studbook.

[EverElite]

Thanks all, this is incredibly helpful. Over the years, this is the first mare that I feel is truly quality enough to potentially contribute to a breeding program. I do not take this lightly, and will (and will continue to) get third party opinions.

@Edgar Hope to see you at Woodland Stallion Station in September.

[Bent_Hickory]

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanRhinelandStudbook/
https://www.usrhineland.org

[Laurierace]

I don’t understand why anyone would go to the trouble and expense of more than one registry. Can you explain?