Anybody try this yet for their metobolic horses?
My vet suggested I try it and I am probably going to but was hoping to hear some positive feedback before I spend another 60 bucks!!
I can’t find ingredients or nutritional guarantee online. Email them and asks what’s in it. If they won’t tell you, pass. There is usually little new in horse care and the active ingredients are probably cheaper elsewhere.
There is a good online group for ir horses that could guide you through the best choices in mineral supplementation. I think they may need more copper and zinc than normal horses, but it’s not something I’ve dealt with personally.
Edited to add: next poster linked to the group I was thinking about!
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This is a great group to join and digest all the info on their site. I’ve never heard of that supplement. I’d also want to know
the ingredients.
Scribbler, the ingredients tab is on their website:
Lysine- 1605mg- an amino acid
Leucine- 1150 mg. an amino acid
Reservatrol 750 mg. anti inflammatory
Quercetin 500 mg. anti inflammatory
jump pony, you might want to look at Heiro supplement for IR horses. If you do a search here, there’s lots of good reviews
for it and I’ve used it several times also with good results on my IR horse.
It would be a lot cheaper to order the individual ingredients on Amazon.
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The ECIR group was discussing this supplement, along with a few others with reservatrol, just a few days ago. Go back to Monday or Tuesday; Dr. Kellon is asking members if they’ve had any luck using this. Some were happy with it.
You are right to be skeptical. Supplements are usually a waste of time and money. With metabolic horses, it’s usually most important to manage intake so the rate of consumption is restricted, and what they are eating is restricted. Grazing muzzles and slow feed nets allow them to have access to long stem roughage for long periods of time without overconsumption. Some of them cannot be on pasture at all.
These supplements that “support” a healthy metabolism have little true research behind them. A handful of horses studied for a handful of weeks is not a real study. You want to look at a large population over a long period of time. That rarely happens with horses.
No luck with Heiro here Ӣ
two different breeds,
different ages,
different sexes,
but glad it has helped others’ horses.
IR diagnosis is a tough assignment - IMHO .
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When my first horse was diagnosed with metabolic issues in 2007, Heiro did not list their ingredients on the label, claiming they were “proprietary”. I won’t buy anything that doesn’t list ingredients and because I tend to hold grudges, I would never spend my money on Heiro – not even when a second horse was diagnosed IR in 2012.
“IR Diagnosis Is A Tough Assignment”. Needs to be on a t-shirt with a frazzled-looking horse owner beside the words:). It has turned my hair gray but at least I still have it:)
FWIW, my IR horse has been in remission since 2015. What has helped him the most is me learning to dig into what’s on labels, not being afraid to call feed and supplement companies and holding their feet to the fire asking what their idea of “Low NSC” means if they don’t put the percent on the label.
All he gets is one measure cup of Timothy pellets twice daily to mix his supplements in. Until something better comes along, I swear by Horse Tech’s High Point for grass fed horses, vit/min supplement.
testing hay every season.
Shorter pasture time in his own personal and hilly six acres. A few weeks back, I forgot to close the big door to the main pasture and the IR guy snuck into the main pasture (~19 acres). He came in that night, not feeling at all well. Thankfully no hot hooves but I now check that big door three times before pointing him toward the man door into his own little pasture where he has to be on the move a lot more than in the big pasture:)
^^ ^ On the move is important. He has old injuries that make him barely rideable plus I can’t ride anymore so those hills in his pasture that he has to travel every day are a blessing for increasing his exercise:)
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Yes - I need a couple of those t-shirts walkinthewalk … as well hoodies for winter …
IR makes me feel very old !!!
but
a good report this morning with vet & farrier :yes: makes my day - week - month …
Jingles & AO for all IR horses & their worried owners ~
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I can’t say anything about the Insulin Wise, but I have been using Bone Wise for the past few years per my vet’s recommendation.
I just finished 2 buckets of the Insulin Wise - my horses insulin levels didn’t change. The bummer for me, is that I have been riding my horse a lot more - and his insulin levels should have dropped regardless of supplements 
He is on a low carb/low starch diet too. Hes an Andalusian - and I think genetically he is just programmed wrong. The InsulinWise was a waste of money for me.
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Tried it on my gelding – he refuses to eat ANYTHING that’s supposed to help with his IR.
Hates Heiro. Hates Animed Remission. We’re now syringing his Thyro-L into him 2x a day. he’s driving me and my BO crazy.
