Interesting Article about Risk in TB Breeding

https://www.paulickreport.com/features/bloodlines/bloodlines-understanding-risk-in-the-thoroughbred-breeding-business/

@skydy Thanks. Have you read the book of subject? It looks good, and Iā€™ll try to get it when Iā€™m done working.

Re: the article

I have always thought it was crazy that the most popular stallions are the first and second year (unproven) horses. While they ā€œhave yet to do anything wrongā€ they also have yet to do anything right.

I can see why sellers have convinced themselves that they are mitigating their risk by breeding to the new stallions, but what I have never understood is why buyers are then willing to assume that risk themselves by purchasing the offspring of unproven horses when they have other, perhaps better, choices.

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No , I havenā€™t read the book. I just saw the article yesterday. :slight_smile: It seemed to me that ā€œriskā€ in TB breeding was only part of the book,so I probably wonā€™t read it in itā€™s entirety. Iā€™ll check the library though, to see.

Ah, I must be a bigger nerd.

Me too, because I just ordered the book! :wink: Sounds very interesting.

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Unfortunately I donā€™t see this trend changing. The transition from an industry that was dominated by owner-breeders to one where a much higher percentage of the players are commercial breeders, or agents and pinhookers (who are in turn working with result-oriented clients), forces them to look at stallions from a purely commercial perspective.

he whole game has shifted so much to sales-ring performance, it almost seems like race results are seen as validation of sales prices and commercial appeal. Back in the day a stallion that got plenty of good but not spectacular runners stuck around and was owned or patronized by owner-breeders and smaller breeders - and sometimes sired a few truly significant horses along the way. Horses like Al Hattab, Carson City, Crafty Prospector, Smartenā€¦

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IME, breeding farms aggressively market their new stallions. So when looking at who breeders chose to breed to, a lot is based on the deal offered by the farm standing the stallion. And the more foals there are, the more the hype and availability for buyers, and the farms buy back at inflated prices creating a false market. Iā€™m certainly not an economist, but thatā€™s how things rolled from my experience.

We loved the foals our ownersā€™ mares threw by a particular stallion who wasnā€™t very fancy or hot, but we had a heck of a time getting the stud farm to agree to let us breed mares to that stallion after his first year or two. They kept pushing their new studs and offering all these deals and weā€™re like, nope. We had to twist their arm practically to let us breed to the established one we liked rather than take a ā€˜dealā€™ on new ones we werenā€™t interested in.

Beginning at 4:50 in this video there is a short discussion related to this conversation, by a representative of Darley, though this is a stallion with a very successful race record. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQQBzD5oBw

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Are you taking notes? I just downloaded the book and Iā€™m almost embarrassed to admit Iā€™m taking notes!!!

I just got it the other day and plan to read it on a trip Iā€™m taking over New Yearā€™s. Your post is making me even more excited to get started!

I was actually kind of disappointed in the horse breeding chapter. The first 6 chapters were pretty good, although nothing life altering. Perhaps I wonā€™t by any more lottery tickets.

The book sounds somewhat similar to a few others that grabbed the attention of my economics/statistics oriented brainā€¦ ā€œFreakonomicsā€Ā and ā€œBlink.ā€Ā