Okay, I went back and found the actual email I received from Simone at Manu Forti Farm. In lieu of Touch of the Blues, she recommended the RID stallion whose full registered name is Manu Forti’s Touch Down, by Touch of the Blues out of the RID mare Kerryoak Lady Dawn. Just wanted to clarify. I apologize for any confusion I caused by only using half his name. (sorry guys!!!)
We have a really nice 2 yo by Brandenburg’s Windstar out of our TB mare, Good Queen Liz (dam of Salute The Truth) - but from what I understand, they are not shipping him much (if at all) anymore. One that I think will be interesting to watch is Bruce Davidson’s new-ish stallion, Keltic Lion. He’s already doing well at the Preliminary level: http://www.brucedavidsoneventing.com/Pages/KelticLion.html
Wanted to point out that Touch of the Blues is available frozen. Not what the OP is looking for as the OP wants fresh, but for those of you who are able to use frozen he is still available.
Just got an email saying that Lenamore (Sea Crest x TB) had just passed Spring Along (Pallas Digion x TB) in lifetime British Eventing points, and they are now 1, 2 in lifetime ranking.
Received this e-mail from Robin Sweely, Acorn Hill Farm, today: “Yes, Pallas Digion is still alive and breeding.”
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Okay, I went back and found the actual email I received from Simone at Manu Forti Farm. In lieu of Touch of the Blues, she recommended the RID stallion whose full registered name is Manu Forti’s Touch Down, by Touch of the Blues out of the RID mare Kerryoak Lady Dawn. Just wanted to clarify. I apologize for any confusion I caused by only using half his name. (sorry guys!!!)[/QUOTE]
And thank you very much for the correction! This is our stallion, who we bought from Manu Forti Farm as a five month weanling. He’s dual registered IDHSNA and IDHS Canada, and is producing stupendous, correct foals with talent and great minds. Also, so far, a majority are fillies, if that matters to you
Flexible may indeed be a good choice as per Edward Doyle’s website he is out of a full TB mare that Edward competed. I would love to know the missing part of the pedigree. Have asked around a little but have found nothing so far. Probably need to email ED but don’t want to be annoying!
Terri
Hangon Johnny stallion sons
www, blackshireequestian.com has two stallion sons by Hangon Johnny one from a TB mare and the other from an Old. mare. Johnny has a pedigree to be likely candidate to produce for eventing…to Ben Purple but got started very late as a breeding stallion
Try Arden. Pat
I’m not sure if he is standing to outside mares but there is a son of High Scope (out of a TB) here in PA named Ramble On.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ramble+on
Extremely nice temperament with him and his offspring. He is competing at Prelim I believe and looks to have the stuff to go all the way if his owner/rider has time and money to compete him.
I have a 3 year old filly by him out of a TB who is very nice.
Just a more out of the box thought…Although this sire crossed on a TB is the right amount of TB blood for an UL event horse.
Terri, would LOVE to know dam line on Flexible if you can find out. We asked Flexible’s stallion manager awhile ago, but have no info yet.
Just a statistic I read after Hong Kong '08 - seven of the top fifteen event horses were of Irish descent.
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Just to clarify, Touchdown is an ISH not a SF. He is out of the international Irish mare Lady Willpower, he is by the SF sire Galoubet.
Unlike the holsteiner Cavalier Royale who was imported from Switzerland, Touchdown was Irish bred.[/QUOTE]
He sired several 1.6m jumpers, including the fabulous mare Liscalgot, winner of the 2002 WEG. http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=G7erFw&d=liscalgot.
This probably won’t help the OP since she’s looking for fresh cooled, but I like the look of Cruisings Micky Finn: http://www.scotlandaiservice.com/cruisingsmickyfinn.htm
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If you can put up with a very, very strange disposition, Cruising is still the top ISH stallion in eventing. Maybe showjumping also. Eventing database has him with 19 International level eventers and 60 International level showjumpers. Frozen only, of course.
http://www.shelbournefarm.com/cruising.html
Brandenburg’s Windstar is also supposed to throw very strange dispositions.[/QUOTE]
Is Cruising’s disposition really that strange? He himself was at the top of the sport for so long and has produced many top horses himself.
I think the qualifier on Cruising and possible Brandenburgs Windstar is that they may not produce young horses for amateurs but certainly they produce competitive horses for experienced riders. They would not be horses to mess around with like many amateurs do. They likely need a good start with an experienced starter used to forward smart energetic youngsters. That may be a trait that distinguishes many horses who will one day compete at the top in sport. PatO
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Is Cruising’s disposition really that strange? He himself was at the top of the sport for so long and has produced many top horses himself.[/QUOTE]
Cruising was extremely spooky. He did not like to see anything new or different. His success in the show ring was due to the patience and skill of Trevor Coyle. Coyle lost the ride on Cruising because he did not want to take him to the European champs at Hickstead, which is famous for its big, unique, scary jumps. As Coyle put it, “I’m not throwing away seven years of hard work for the sake of one afternoon.”
Cruising’s owner promptly removed the horse from his stable, then shuffled him off to a succession of BNRs without any success. The horse eventually went to John Whitaker and was quietly retired.
Having seen Cruising very up close in person and lots of offspring, I can say they’re a mixed bag. Like with much of Irish breeding, I suspect there was little-to-no quality control on the mares. Some offspring, like Flexible, are very nice; others are just fair-to-middling horses of average ability.
I do like Flexible very much but I was also surprised he was a Cruising baby given the way he goes and what he looks like. He has a lot more quality than is typical.
This is why I’d like to find out about the TB mare that Flexible is out of. Cruisings have a definite quirk streak. I really never was his biggest fan but after having seen a few out jumping this past year, I had a little more appreciation for them.
The mare Flex has another Cruising, Flexing I think who did really well and 2 younger not by Cruising offspring who are also jumping well. So nice mare. Also helps having Edward Doyle as the pilot.
Terri
I saw a few weeks ago that Flexing is now in CA.
A while back RFD TV was running shows from Horse and Country TV out of England. Several hunter competitions were shown…they are not ANYTHING like US hunter classes…and there were a few Cruising get doing well
Branderberg Windstar was recently put down
Thanks columbus and JER. I had heard Cruising was spooky. His pilot did a good job with him!!
Anyone seen Mr. Medicott in person? Karen O’Connor will be taking over the ride: http://www.chronofhorse.com/article/mr-medicott-sold-karen-oconnor
video of Mr. Medicott from the WEG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8urR-GNbag
Followup to original post - regarding Brandenburg’s Windstar:
- Anecdotally, he threw “quirky” foals. Was this just characteristic of this horse, or a IDSH type characteristic?
- Degenerative arthritis scares me and is frequently genetic (probably recessive, but genetic). How frequent does this outcome occur in IDSH bloodlines? Is there a characteristic bloodline to avoid? Or was this a random occurrence which all horses are subject to?
TIA.
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When I first started thinking about getting into sport horse breeding, I contacted Manu Forti Farm about Touch of the Blues to see if he would be standing to outside mares next year. They said due to his age, he would not be. Bummer, as he was my first, top choice. They did recommend the RID stallion Touch Down, by Touch of the Blues. The only other RID stallion that I really, really like is Bridon Belfry, but not sure if or how many of his offspring are competing at the upper levels. 'Course, Manu Forti could change their minds about ToTB (please, please, please!), but just wanted to share the info they gave me.[/QUOTE]
I have a 2008 TOTB mare out of a TB cross mare. She has a great mind and is very athletic, but I consider her a bit too heavy for upper level eventing. She is almost 16.3 and has a 9.5" cannon bone. Lots of substance but not drafty looking (see photo). She would be perfect to cross back to a TB, which I may do if I breed her some day. If I don’t sell her by spring, I will start her under saddle and see what she can do. Most 50% RIDs will be too heavy for upper level eventing but make great ammie horses and provide the right mix for breeding the 25% RID, 75% TB.
Another RID stallion I really like is Steeped in Luck. I’m not sure about his jumping ability but his movement is very good (he competes in dressage).