[QUOTE=fvw;2238476]
At least I admit when I’m not familiar with a subject[/QUOTE]
Not always you don’t.:eek:
I’d forgotten about the ignore feature, I think it’s time for you to be put there. Why let one person ruin otherwise interesting discussions. Adios!
If only all problems could be solved so easily:yes: .
[QUOTE=jilltx;2238517]
Now I am the queen of derailment…but what is the actual title of this thread???
SOmetimes you just need to stop for a little mental half-halt. :winkgrin:
two snaps and a head toss[/QUOTE]
My attempt at sarcasm obviously went over your head since people have admitted to skimming over posts!! …and posting things that have already been posted.
pinecone…you’re breaking my heart. 
[QUOTE=fvw;2238548]
My attempt at sarcasm obviously went over your head since people have admitted to skimming over posts!! …and posting things that have already been posted.[/QUOTE]
snork I know. None of us get sarcasm or can read. :no: It’s a sad sad thing, but at leat I’m in good company (for the most part) :winkgrin:
Thank you! The history shows less heavy draft blood than most strains like KWPN and Oldenburg. But the first ones important in the 70’s and early 80’ were used to pull. what most people don’t know is that all warmbloods are popular in harness, and the crap conformation is what Holland would let go of at the time, I recall some pretty ugly WBs of other types, too! Considering a freisian a draft is a urban myth perpetuated by people who haven’t done the research and don’t know the history of most warmbloods ,which include heavy draft pulls and draft breeding while Friesians were running trot races. the fact that most friesians are kept obese and get dull to the leg doesn’t help, they are very competitive horses who loves to GO but they get irritated at being yelled at with leg and tune you out pretty easily, hence the range of friesians who won’t get off your leg and seem “drafty”.
[QUOTE=chicki;2226778]
You cannot change the facts. Whenever you can enter horses into more than one registry they are a cross.
I was simply telling you how they are classified by the breeding authority on that studbook. Anyways…you can enter arabs and tbs into different registries,…I don’t consider them crosses. A horses breed is what it is registered as. I don’t there there is any definition of horse breed that states: breeds are only those which have a closed studbook".[/QUOTE]
This is where I have trouble with the WB’s and “registries”. My young horse has generations of Holsteiners in his pedigree. But he was registered as an RPSI. So now when people ask me what breed he is, evidently I am supposed to say that he is a RPSI. But he isn’t!! He is a Holsteiner, with a RPSI passport.
And my new filly will be registered with the Selle Francais. The SF people call it a “studbook” not a registry, and they have distinct criteria for qualifying to be entered into their stud book.
So, is a Selle Francais a breed? A breed with an open stud book? Any horse who is a Selle Francais by blood can be registered in any registry the owner wants to pay the money to. But it is not vice versa.
If I chose to register my filly with sBs, that does not make her a Belgian sport horse ---- or does it? Or does a SF horse (which may or may not be a WB) automatically become a WB if it is registered with any group, other than SF?
As a TB person, I find this very confusing.
This thread pre-dates my joining - 2007!
I know! I was thinking to myself that a nearly 8 1/2 year old post being pulled back up has to be some kind of COTH record! :lol:
[QUOTE=Lord Helpus;8221640]
This is where I have trouble with the WB’s and “registries”. My young horse has generations of Holsteiners in his pedigree. But he was registered as an RPSI. So now when people ask me what breed he is, evidently I am supposed to say that he is a RPSI. But he isn’t!! He is a Holsteiner, with a RPSI passport.
And my new filly will be registered with the Selle Francais. The SF people call it a “studbook” not a registry, and they have distinct criteria for qualifying to be entered into their stud book.
So, is a Selle Francais a breed? A breed with an open stud book? Any horse who is a Selle Francais by blood can be registered in any registry the owner wants to pay the money to. But it is not vice versa.
If I chose to register my filly with sBs, that does not make her a Belgian sport horse ---- or does it? Or does a SF horse (which may or may not be a WB) automatically become a WB if it is registered with any group, other than SF?
As a TB person, I find this very confusing.[/QUOTE]
Being approved into the breeding books is not the same as being registered. As for a horse with parents from other registries I have no problem with that. For the most part it means that the registering organization has approved both parents as being approved into the studbooks because they are considered to be excellent representatives of what the registry is trying to produce both phenotypically and genotypically.
[QUOTE=Donatella;2221167]
What is the difference between sporthorse / warmblood?
Thank you[/QUOTE]
A sport horse is a horse who was bred to compete in one of the 3 major Olympic disciplines. Not to necessarily compete IN the Olympics, but to be a successful and competitive athlete in one of the disciplines seen at the Olympics: dressage, show jumping, and eventing.
I hear the word warmblood and assume the horse is registered with one of the main WB registries,e.g., Hanovarian, Oldenburg, Swedish, etc. To me, sporthorse is a much more general term, meaning any horse with aptitude for the sporthorse disciplines.
Lord Helpus, this may or may not help, but a friend described the warmbloods as registries as opposed to breeds. Kind of like nationality, as opposed to ethnicity.
Star is a TBxHannoverian, bred in the states and registered as RPSI because that’s the kuering the breeder took him to. Why that kuering? Because she was s friend of a person whose trainer was hosting it.
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