Is this Cheezy?

[3TBS]

The foal is getting registered thismonth and I need to name him. His sire is Freedom Z and his mother is a TB (we call her Ziggy).

Is it cheezy to follow up the foals name with a Z, even though he’s a homebred and out of a warmblood registered, but TB mare?

Icon Z (and playing with this…when he was first born he batted his huge eyelashes and blinked for I swear to god 2 hours…looked like he was saying “I can See”.

So, is adding the Z tacky? Is that something just big warmblood breeding farms do?

[risingstarfarm]

Adding the Z is appropriate if the foal is registered Zangersheide or if your farm name begins with a Z.

[EquusMagnificus]

Actually, if I am not mistaken, foals registered with Zangersheide can and are encouraged to use the Z.

A lot of foals by Popeye K sport a K after their name even though it stood for the initial of Popeye’s breeder; Peter Karneef.

Not cheezy IMO; or otherwise, a heck of a lot of people are cheezy too. :lol:

[3TBS]

He wont be registered Zangersheide… still think thats ok?

[Nootka]

[QUOTE=risingstarfarm;5934196]
Adding the Z is appropriate if the foal is registered Zangersheide or if your farm name begins with a Z.[/QUOTE]

^^^This^^^^

[buschkn]

I think adding the Z is only appropriate if you are registering the foal Zangersheide. I understand that people (even me) put their initials after their foals, but the Z has been established as a brand, and it does very much bother me when people add it to the end of a horse’s name that is not Z registered. Sorry, no offense. I think the name is actually cute, but maybe call him Icon C, or Icon Zee?

Just my humble opinion, but I have a lot of respect for what Mr. Melchior has created with Zangersheide, so it’s a pet peeve of mine.

[imajacres]

Just like people who call their Popeye kids something “K”. Not cool.

These initials actually mean something, they are the initial of the person/farm who was the breeder.
Why wouldnt you want to add your own initial if you want one, or as suggested, play on the letter, “zee” etc?

[buschkn]

I think the K, for Popeye K, isn’t tooo bad, honestly. It’s kind of a shout out to the sire and the breeder. But I had considered using K after my horses because it’s my initial and we are in KY, but due to that breeder opted not to.

But for the Z, I would stick with another variation. I do think the name is quite clever.

[Real_Rush]

If the initial stands for the lineage, I see no problem. If for the breeder, then not so much. Just for tha sake of conversation, check out the pedigree for the infamous jumper mare Ratina Z:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ratina+z

Does anyone know if the Z is strictly to show breeding lineage, or was it used to signify the breeder?

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

As stated above, Z is for horses registered with Zangersheide.

My understanding is Ratina Z was registered Zangersheide, hence the Z.

http://www.horsebreedersmagazine.com/#/zangersheide-interview/4540351230

I would not name a non-Zangersheide horse with a Z on the end, but Zee or Cee would be cute.

[smokygirl]

I wouldn’t unless it was a Zangersheide horse.

It would be like. ok I like Arabians. There is a HUGE well known arabian barn that uses the V after the name of all horses it breeds (Varian Arabians). So when purchasing Mclintock V or Bel Aire V or Desperado V or Sundance Kid V, you know you are getting a Varian-bred arabian, bred by Sheila. Now if my last name is Violet VonTrapp… yeah I could piggy back on the V, but it would not be in good taste.

[Real_Rush]

I wasn’t sure about Ratina Z’s breeding, as it lists her as Hanoverian. Thanks for the info.

[EquusMagnificus]

[QUOTE=buschkn;5934289]

Just my humble opinion, but I have a lot of respect for what Mr. Melchior has created with Zangersheide, so it’s a pet peeve of mine.[/QUOTE]

Except that Mr. Melchior didn’t exactly offer the same curtesy (sp???) to others. Ie. Almé renamed Almé Z under his ownership…

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

[QUOTE=realrush89;5935496]
I wasn’t sure about Ratina Z’s breeding, as it lists her as Hanoverian. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]

I could be wrong too, but that was the impression I got. I don’t think it spells it out exactly…? He maybe bought her Hanoverian dam and bred her to Alme? Does the (Z) studbook dual register? I’m not clear on when the Z studbook actually started registering their own horses. Someone else knows more than me I’m sure.

[Real_Rush]

[QUOTE=TrotTrotPumpkn;5935539]
I could be wrong too, but that was the impression I got. I don’t think it spells it out exactly…? He maybe bought her Hanoverian dam and bred her to Alme? Does the (Z) studbook dual register? I’m not clear on when the Z studbook actually started registering their own horses. Someone else knows more than me I’m sure.[/QUOTE]

It is kinda confusing, and I don’t know anything about Zangersheides. The allbreedpedigree shows her sire is Ramiro Z, a Holsteiner. Her dam is Argentina Z, a Hanoverian by Alme Z a Selle Francais and out of Heureka Z, a Hanoverian mare. Allbreedpedigree has been wrong before, and most of the info about the horses is in German, which I can’t read. Her name just popped into my head while reading the above posts, and I didn’t remember her being a Zangersheide, so wanted to investigate…

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

Ooops. I meant to say granddam, not dam.

But still I’m not sure…

[Kerole]

Very uncool. :no:

As a breeder who took the trouble and expense to register a prefix, I have strong opinions on this.

In this case the Z is for horses that are registered to the Zangersheide studbook. By putting a Z on the end of your foal’s name, others will assume it is registered with Zangersheide.

I love the name idea but choose something else to go on the end.

[YankeeLawyer]

I think you should do what you want; it is your horse.

[Forte]

Yes, I think it’s cheesy unless you are going to register the foal with Zangersheide.

[Credosporthorses]

The Z as stated is for zangersheide registered horses. Any warmblood is capable of being registered with the studbook as it is still considered a registery not a breed hence the holsteiner, hano, and SF blood. I personally would nt add the Z unless you plan on registering your foal.