Is this harness on correctly?

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You can then click the photo and it will become very large.

Look at the I don’t know the name pole strap? I think? The collars are clicked on the the ring of the yolk and then the britchen is clicked to the harness. Doesn’t that loop go over the yolk??

I thought when the horses stop, the sliegh would continue forward, the poll would push forward engaging the strap that’s attached to the quarter straps and then engage the britchen… this looks like it’s going to pull the collars off over the horses head?

Am I missing something???

your pole and yolk look to be hanging pretty low to me - been a long time since I harnessed a team but it just doesn’t look right. The yolk attachment to the pole looks kinda hinky too…just looked at a couple of old pics and there is something amiss. The large pic isn’t loading for me, too large for string and tin cans :slight_smile:

Pole is definitely too low and the yoke looks too long.Also,why is the breeching so tight? Are they stopping or going downhill? Looks uncomfortable.

I dout you can raise the pole any? Is it a sled they are hitched too? But for the type of driving your doing the pole is ok. It does look like your breeching is tight. It looks like you have yankee breeching on them but by the looks of it your martingales are loose, so that tells me there is not enought freedom of movement for the breeching to work correctly between the girth. So ajust the martingale so it allows more room for the breeching to pick up on the yoke. That should help!
But all else looks ok. Enjoy!
Robert

Robert has got the part that needs fixing. Martingale is way too loose, letting collars be pulled forward. The Quarter strap/belly strap, from breeching end to martingale, is too tight, making the breeching tight all the time. Maybe photo shows sleigh pushing the animals, but still the martingale should be tight in the picture.

Enlarging the picture just shows the middle part, not pole details or rear of animals.

The martingale and quarterstraps are part of the whole harness system, so they both need to be snug, but not tight. When pressure is on one, the other helps hold it, spreading the force over the horse body.

Breeching is just regular breeching for a Draft Pair. Yankee breeching has the strap ONLY across the top of rump in front of the crupper. Breeching ends fasten to the ends of martingale at girth. There is NOTHING in strap work below the tail crupper on lower haunches. All the pull of Yankee breeching from the martingale-collar-neck yoke, is then on the top of rump, pushing horse down. No chance of sweeping his legs out from under him with a push from load behind him.

Neck YOKE on the dropped pole is going to be rather low, compared to the CDE style YOKE on a sprung pole, because dropped pole hangs from the bottom of yoke ring. Dropped pole yoke is held up by the horses, weight is on the neck all the time.

A yolk is in an egg, not on a vehicle.

The metal yoke appears to have a safety rope to prevent it coming off the pole end. Usually the pole end is much longer beyond the yoke ring, for safety. A safety strap, rope, something, is always recommended on a drop pole, to hold the yoke on pole, if straps or pull of load removes tension between pole strap/snaps, traces and vehicle.

If the yoke ring comes off, the pole will drop to the ground, often stab into the dirt. Horses are still pulling, so problems result, with vehicle usually tipping over.

Everyone has “their way” of doing things in driving. However I feel compelled to point out that snaps on the reins are a bad choice. Folks tend to just snap stuff together, not really look as they hitch. Snaps shown are not very strong, just cast white metal with light metal for the clip part. Personally, my dog has broken a few of these snaps when tied, and the clip part rusts very fast if it gets wet or sweaty. I would NOT want to trust such snaps with the rein control of my horses.

Part of the snap use problem is the fact that person hitching, NEVER looks at the rein billet fold holding snaps on. Rein billets tend to collect a lot of dirt, moisture, which makes the rein material get extra wear, stitching often is rubbed away. Just too easy to clip and go, not check your harness and parts.

If you buckle on your reins and breeching straps each hitching, you should notice wear, dirt while handling straps. Then you can take steps to change worn equipment before it is dangerous or breaks just when you need some strength.

Still on the reins, they look twisted. Reins for a Pair should be smoothed flat forward from the coupler, so they are the same length, or correct adjustment to equalize the horses. A twist or two will shorten the one rein, affecting how the horse goes, and maybe make him act badly that day. Twist might hang up in a rein terret or hames ring, grab your horse on one side with no release. The pull of reins from driver is never going to work evenly on both horses as the reins are designed to do. Adjusting the coupler won’t help either.

You can get away with some stuff sometimes. Then it will come back and bite you when you least is expect it. There are reasons that accidents happen, which we all want to prevent.

Thanks everyone. It’s actually a photo of my friends ponies. I don’t drive pairs yet. It’s amazing how owning 25 horses I don’t have the spare money for a pairs harness.

I always thought that the martingale went over the yoke Like in this video

Thanks for posting that video. I’ve never seen a martingale used like that before! You learn something everyday. Thanks again.
Robert

The ponies use a harness with a 3 way snap at the bottom. I have the same and they are quick and easy but the yoke hangs lower than I would like. I would shorten up the breast strap as much as possible and still be able to get it hooked. I would then shorten the quarter straps or quarter tugs to where the britchen is not engaged when the tugs are tight. I like about 3 inches of front to back movement between when the tugs are engaged or the britchen engaged. You will likely have to adjust where you hook the heel chains to give the horses enough slack. I like to have about a half a step of slack in the tugs. This allows me to back a team then wrap the lines to load the wagon and if the team trys to step forward they pull the load with the bits.

I hope that is clear as mud. LF