ISR-Old, RPSI, Weser-Ems -- help a buyer will ya?

[QUOTE=Virginia Horse Mom;8908004]
Thanks for the detailed explanations on height, and how these German Riding Pony books work. So if I am reading everything correctly, once you add pony blood in… Even a nice 16 hand mare is not going to be approved for the GOV main mare book again. But she may be approved for more Weser Ems breeding - even though she’s tall.[/QUOTE]

All mares are held to the same pedigree requirements by OHBS/GOV as far as studbook placement goes. Main Mare Book requires a 4-generation pedigree of approved and licensed stallions". Pony stallions are not considered “approved and licensed” for Oldenburg breeding - even if they are licensed and approved by Weser-Ems. So, yes - WE-registered mares with pony stallions in the first four generations of their pedigree would not be eligible for the Oldenburg MMB.

Conversely, you can breed an approved WE mare to an approved WB stallion, and there would be no issue with the foal getting WE papers. Or with a filly from that cross going into the WE MMB - although this can depend on the height at maturity. The WE Deutsche Reitpony Book and Kleines Deutsche Reitford book have a plethora of horses with WB stallions in their pedigrees. It is why German breeders will state about some WB stallions - “he is a pony-maker”. Rotspon is a prime example of a modern day WB stallion with a fair number of offspring in the WE books.

For fun, here is a link to the catalog for the upcoming WE Hengstkorung. The Deutsche Reitpony stallion candidates began with #23. Take a look at his pedigree - his dam is a Holsteiner mare by Corrado II! And #41 has De Niro as damsire. The one mentioned on the top left side of that page has the Trakehner stallion Michelangelo as damsire. #42 is another one with Donnerhall in the 3rd generation. I think I also saw one with Sandro Hit in the 2nd or 3rd generation. There are probably plenty of others in the catalog with WB stallions in the pedigrees, but I haven’t looked at all of them yet.
http://psbwe.de/de/service/download-kataloge/index.html

Its definitely making more sense now.

Fun catalogue to look through Down Yonder! I saw Donnerhall on the dam side a few times. Landadel was in there too. I also thought some of the New Forest pony stallions looked lovely…

[QUOTE=Virginia Horse Mom;8909251]

Fun catalogue to look through Down Yonder! I also thought some of the New Forest pony stallions looked lovely…[/QUOTE]

I have been smitten by #12. Not sure about his neck - it looks thick and maybe ties in too low, but I like him otherwise! Yeah, like what am I going to do with a 12.0h Welsh Pony stallion? :lol:

[QUOTE=ladyj79;8906747]
OP is she also registered half Welsh? I personally would be more interested in the half Welsh registry than the ISR.[/QUOTE]

She is out of a Welsh mare, but I do not believe she has half-Welsh papers.

Duecavalle, we are in Region 8 and breed Sport Ponies. We have some lovely youngsters available and some that are going well under saddle.
They are Sport Ponies with lots of GRP in their bloodlines.
They have done quite well showing in hand right along with the big warmbloods.
www.twinlightsfarm.net
I honestly believe the quality of the horse or pony should be more important to the registry they were put in.