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Abdullah immediately comes to mind for Trakehner. A Fine Romance has a GP offspring, I believe, for TBs.
As Di Villagna?
Jaguar Mail?
Special Memories, Bonaparte N AA.
I have no idea of your mare’s pedigree or what she is like (conformation or personality). However, I have both a Special Memories filly and an Abdullah filly of the same age and out of the same dam. The dam was an old-fashioned, longer backed/shorter legged, heavier type mare (by Galoubet). Both fillies are an improvement in type; more modern and lighter boned. In my case the Abdullah is actually the more refined of the two, with a very typey head. Both have recently been started under-saddle, and have been free-jumped. The Special Memories baby is more of a hunter type mover and is a very nice jumper in the chute, but a flatter type jump. The Abdullah is NOT a hunter type mover and is a much rounder/scopier horse in the chute, but is a bit spookier/hotter than her sister. The Special Memories filly has a super laid-back personality and is just very, very easy and quiet.
Again, not neccessarily reccomending either for your mare, but giving my input on two stallions that have been mentioned.
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I have no idea of your mare’s pedigree or what she is like (conformation or personality). However, I have both a Special Memories filly and an Abdullah filly of the same age and out of the same dam. The dam was an old-fashioned, longer backed/shorter legged, heavier type mare (by Galoubet). Both fillies are an improvement in type; more modern and lighter boned. In my case the Abdullah is actually the more refined of the two, with a very typey head. Both have recently been started under-saddle, and have been free-jumped. The Special Memories baby is more of a hunter type mover and is a very nice jumper in the chute, but a flatter type jump. The Abdullah is NOT a hunter type mover and is a much rounder/scopier horse in the chute, but is a bit spookier/hotter than her sister. The Special Memories filly has a super laid-back personality and is just very, very easy and quiet.
Again, not neccessarily reccomending either for your mare, but giving my input on two stallions that have been mentioned.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input everyone, just added a picture and link to her pedigree.
Thanks again!
I have to agree with Special Moments. Hilltop has Quite Easy, Utrillo Van De Heffinck, Jaguar Mail and Alligator Fontaine. I don’t know your mare but these are some stallions you might want to check out. I think all at Hilltop are frozen semen with a LFG.
http://www.hilltopfarminc.com/breeding_stallions.html
Good luck with your breeding. :winkgrin:
Really like your mare! I had a nice Special Memories from my Dutch mare. I would say more hunter than jumper type, good mind, fun personality. Not hot, but would look at new things.
And Special Memories is in the SSA, which ends pretty soon (on the 14th) and you get two doses of the very limited frozen that is left in the world - as many pregnancies as you can get out of those two doses.
Has Special Memories produced International level jumpers?
I like the Bonaparte AA suggestion, but also not sure if he fits the criteria in the OP?
“International”? not sure… there is a mare, Esperanza, that was winning in the Mini Prix in 2011 - not sure what she is doing in the last 2 years. There is another “foal”, Silver and Gold, that was in hunters, then went to the A/O ring and is apparently doing quite well, and there are others on SM FB page that appears to be doing something of significance (in terms of height) in the jumper rings… http://www.facebook.com/pages/Special-Memories-Trakehner-Stallion-by-Abdullah-out-of-Kluwall-xx/296200378143 Maybe Omare will come on as she probably knows more about the “kids” and what they are doing…
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What about the Holstein approved Trakehner stallion Hirtentanz?[/QUOTE]
Just saw this photo of him posted on FB today.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/600449_392520197510736_527261218_n.jpg
I don’t think he fits the OPs criteria weight wise or Internationally producing (he’s too young!)
I don’t have much to impart other than I love your mare… her expression is hilarious - is it raining there? Looks like she is really listening to that rider though - that inner ear… I’d love to see what other people have suggested for her!
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I don’t have much to impart other than I love your mare… her expression is hilarious - is it raining there? Looks like she is really listening to that rider though - that inner ear… I’d love to see what other people have suggested for her![/QUOTE]
Thanks! Not raining that day, she always has a similar expression
I like all of the stallions suggested. I expect we’ll breed to Abdullah someday in the future, and if Hirtentanz offspring continue to look impressive he’ll likely be used as well even though he is heavier than I like. Bonaparte is a cool stallion, too! Special Memories is one that I like a lot, but he’s not necessarily for me based on offspring…they seem to hunter-ish to me.
I appreciate all the suggestions, I’m going to check them out! Love Jaguar Mail and Quite Easy. Utrillo Van De Heffinck is one I’d put right near the top of my list. Also considering Flexible, as I’m absolutely enamored with him as a performance horse and the foal will likely be for sale.
Your mare is beautiful as is her pedigree.
A problem for the OP is the limited number of international jumper Trakehners and, hence, sires of such jumpers. Trakehners seemed to be used more in the jumper ring in Eastern Europe, Russia and very much less so everywhere else. Also to be “international” ( FEI rules), in the USA ,is expensive and less prevalent than in Europe, so that a 1.45 m horse in Europe may have international points and the same horse in the USA none.
Abdullah speaks for himself (sired SM, Airborne Monticella, Cabdullah) Other Trak and xx that have sired at least one GP horse is A Fine Romance xx (Southbound (?) and Hailo (MTM Remington). of the others that are still young, Hirtentanz seems to make a lot of top stallion prospects but he is expensive here. Other choices perhaps Coconut Grove (should hit soon w a GP horse-bred to nice jumper mares), Heops (frozen? ) Horalas (ATA auction -good jumpers in eastern Europe), Waikiti (frozen?). There may also be more European xx stallions (Favoritasxx?) and I think the Holsteiner and Trak Verbands approved a GP jumping French horse that is 99 percent thoroughbred but I cannot remember his name right now.
FWIW Special Memories also had Castle Rock and Thanks for the Memories both out of xx mares. The former did some small GPs and the latter some $30,000-50,000 GPs and was under FEI rules for the young riders. Both started in the children jumpers and their child riders grew up with them to the GP level-both were one GP horse stables. He does have a young horse –turning 5 --from his first very small European crop (maybe 5 foals) in a professional’s barn so keeping fingers crossed. We had to let Special Memories go last May. He was grand and noble and smart to the end. For sentimental reasons only I share my favorite class, a 1.6m world cup class.He was as light as a feather moving and jumping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydCY98nQAkE
(Below is a list of trakehners -with sire/dam sire with soem type of international points from 2012 from the WSHBF points
DER DUERER TSF 5 01 Stallion TRAK Waitaki Dalmatika Trafaret
HOTELISs 02 Gelding TRAK Viskis Hema Topazas
EMISSAR 01 Gelding TRAKEHNER SABO ETNA HOROG
OWIWAN 03 Gelding Trakehner Obsession Xavia Steuben
SATURN 02 Gelding TRAK Telets 77 Stefani Hromatic xx
ARMANI 02 Gelding TRAK Vergil Poputchitsa Poputchik
CHROMAS 01 Stallion TRAK HORALAS CHOCHA TOPAZAS
DENVER 99 Gelding TRAK DONAUWALZER DONAUMVENDUNG.ALMOX PRINS J
OMUT 97 Trak Telets Osoba Smertsch
Horalas.
He does not produce heavy, and Sean, that mare line is not heavy at all. You’ve never met the rest of them over here. Not a heavy line!
Navarone (Jus de Pomme x Armstrong) has international jumpers winning Grand Prix. He also has eventers and dressage too. And his sire Jus de Pomme…say no more Atlanta Olympics! He is KWPN but approved in multiple registries and has lot of different blood in him including SF and AA. The foals get get KWPN papers too from your mare. Super characters and very good fresh.
I’m glad to see Maren weigh in here.
I also think that since the Trakehners are a breed, if you have a nice TK mare, its kind of a shame to go outside of the breed, if you can find something to suit your needs in it.
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I’m glad to see Maren weigh in here.
I also think that since the Trakehners are a breed, if you have a nice TK mare, its kind of a shame to go outside of the breed, if you can find something to suit your needs in it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Tracy and I do agree with your comment about the mare. The breed is already stretched out pretty thinly, losing mares like Xena would be a loss.