āSadlyā seems to be a bit overdramatic??
Yes, not a good sign but hopeful that with a bit of rest the filling did go down (but yes, did come back with a bit of work).
Heās not retired yet.
I may be in the minority but I really think the connections would like to have seen a fall campaign with Justify and not just retire him after the Belmont.
Hopefully this swelling doesnāt turn into a career ender just yet.
I would be in the minority too, then, if that is the case.
Hopefully it doesnāt turn into a career ender. :encouragement:
Iām willing to bet the horse never sees the inside of a starting gate again. Stud offer is too much $$$ to risk, mortality insurance to keep him running is too much $$$, etc. Elliot Waldenās comments on the matter sound like retirement speech
I like Justify and Iām not taking away anything heās accomplished but filling in the ankle and heās only made 6 starts.
I hope its only minor and some rest will do him some good but Iāve been questioning his soundness since day 1.
The only question is: When will his retirement be announced?
I will bet that the announcement will be made the beginning of August; specifically, 8/2/18
The winner is the person whose choice is closest to the actual retirement announcement. The prize is hearing the silent clapping of your fellow Racing Forums friends. 
I agree that Elliott Waldenās remarks sounded like a retirement speech. But included among the partners are two strong people (Sol Kumin and Jack Wolf) that only own racing rights in the horse. So I would imagine that pressure will also be brought to bear from āinsideā to keep Justify on the track until the end of the year, if itās safely possible.
bloodhorse has banned comments on the justify topic now. seems someone within partnership is not happy with response to it.
I hope the horse comes back and proves us wrong but I think the $$$$ behind the entire thing is playing a role. no one is going to risk cashing in
I hope to see him race again 1-2 more times, but if there is any change of his ankle problem getting worse, better to retire him.
Besides, the enormous amount of money to be made from stud fees is not something to sneeze at.
That I would agreeā¦ monitor and treat ankle and see how it heals. BB is no dummy. He isnāt going to put an unsound horse in a race even if the horse could get past the track vet.
ATM, all eyes will be on Justify next time he steps on the track. If sound, BB will continue as he sees fit and as the connections want.
If I owned Justify, Iād want at least the Classic under my belt before retiring to āequalā AP. But risking injury isnāt worth it either.
BH may have banned comments not because the partnership doesnāt like them but if theyāre anything like the witch hunts weāve seen in the past by people who really donāt know anything about horses or racing (CC anyone?) maybe BH just didnāt want to be part of the witch hunt.
Iām not gonna go look on FB but wouldnāt be surprised to see froth there.
BH may also not want to be part of speculation on Justifyās future given that it hasnāt been announced yet. Rumor mongering isnāt helpful and supporting it isnāt, IMO, quality reporting.
I havenāt read the comments on the BH but some are entertaining on Paulickās Report (and donāt know if any have been removed or not).
Maybe the rumors of retirement are true (in that case why not just say heās been retired as part of the ankle filling announcement?). Iām hoping the connections will hang in there, if possible, for the Classic as long as it doesnāt compromise Justifyās overall health and soundness.; not worth the risk.
I agree, in these days of extreme sports the Triple Crown doesnāt seem to be enough any more and theyāll want the Classic before he steps down. They have a few months here for rehab if they decide to skip the Haskell. Why rush the announcement if thereās a chance heāll run again at Churchill Downs this fall.
Think BH doesnāt want to encourage another CC type debacle on their social media. Canāt blame them on that, some of the online hysterics over the bruised foot incident sounded like the Chromies.
This ownership group? Call me cynical but Iām with @snaffle1987 , the horse is done. Late starter, constant rumors about ouchy feet and why he was a late bloomer (stifle issues), $75 million deal and a group who are in it for that deal. CHC and Winstar arenāt going to take any chances or pay the insurance premiums on a breakdown (or almost as bad, an Arrogate situation where heās touted as the second coming of Secretariat, this time with a Triple Crown to back it up, only to start losing later.)
The sad part is theyāll still have people lining up with mares when frankly, I donāt care if three of them are the TC, I am not picking a stallion who couldnāt start until three and couldnāt stay sound more than six months.
So, I guess that means you never bred to Danzig. Well, he did make 1 start at 2 and won, 2 starts at 3, Win in a ānon other thenā (maiden) and 1 other then. Retired in June. The rest at they say, is history.
We really donāt have enough information to write him off. Horses that run hard and fast end up with problems - some big, some small. You just have to manage it.
Big horses are hard to hold together. He held together at the best possible time, and I hope he can hold together for a few more months and rack up a few more wins.
Add Storm Bird and Storm Cat to the list of not many starts but huge impact on the breeding industry. But they are not big horses, and I donāt think Danzig was big either. Big looks good in the sales ring, but I think the optimal size for a horse is 16 hands.
Ehā¦Danzig has names very close on his female side I would have liked. Justify doesnāt have names Iām enamored enough of to overlook his really, really light schedule, especially when thereās a living TC winner already standing with those names I like in his female family who ran more, retired sound, and has a puppy-dog personality to boot. But then at the moment I only own stallion shares anyway. If I had a mare Iād send it to the one I get for free.
Malibu Moon. 2 starts at 2.
Just out of curiosity for those that are sure Justify will be retired now.
What would be gained by announcing the ankle filling, waiting and announcing the retirement at a later date vs just announcing now soft tissue injury and subsequent retirement unless there is some thought that Justify wonāt be retired until racing again?
I am not doubting that he has ankle filling. the horse has had questionable soundness since day 1. I am confident that they are going to have a vet check him out an thoroughly investigate. But this could be a serious set back as no matter what, Justify is going to need to be rested to allow appropriate healing. Resting means a big wrench in the plans of prep races before the Breeders Cup. no prep races leading to the Breeders Cup means they are seriously jeopardizing his flawless record and potentially setting him up to bomb in the biggest race of the year with minimal prep.
No races between Belmont and the Breeders Cup could spell disaster.
I think they announced it because everyone is expecting Justify to show up for morning training. So instead of letting the rumor mill fly; they made an announcement. If a vet says the horse needs 4-8 weeks rest and will be fine; I think heās done. If the vet says he needs 2 weeks rest; I think thereās potential for him to return. But I think any vet involved in the situation is going to cover the above explanation and advise to avoid the risk.
This thread is all just conjecture and supposition.
None of us is involved with the horse in any way.
It is not up to us.
Get up and go do what I did on the 5th of May 1973 ā chill on the chestnut TB, go ride your own horses. Relax!
So then: exactly āwhyā is MY comment āsadlyā called āoverdramaticā sez WMW, but then there are several agreeing comments afterwards? I am, as usual confused. Carry on.
