Kineticvet Equishield SA vs Platinum Performance Skin and Allergy

My gelding is currently on PP Skin and Allergy, along with 200mg of Cyproheptedine TID for his extreme, year-round allergies. He has been allergy tested and is on Allergy Immunotherapy shots(started in August 2019) and we have done our best to remove as many of the allergens from his everyday life as we possibly can. Due to his age, our vet will not give him any steroids yet. I’ve tried to put him on zinc and copper from California Trace, but he will not eat it.

He has been on PP for about 10-12 weeks and I can’t say I’ve seen much of a difference. His coat was maybe slightly less dandruffy for a little while, but has started getting patches of flakiness again over the last couple of weeks. I just stumbled upon the Equishield SA product and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. Even better would be experience with both products. And, If someone could possibly give me a price range of Equishield too, that would be awesome, as it is not listed on the website.

Any information would be appreciated. TIA.

Since he is an older horse have you tested him for Cushings? I know that is the popular response for everything that ails a horse these days … but. My high maintenance Cushings pony started to show the same weird coat problems before I started him on Prascend. Dry dandruffy coat, flakiness, just looked weird and my other two horses have shiny beautiful coats and all the same diet and management.

Also have you tried to just add ground flax? It is a simple way to get oils in the coat and cheap if you buy a bag of flax and grind it yourself. I will admit it didn’t help my pony much. I haven’t used the PP skin and allergy.

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The no steroids is because of the younger side of things, not older. He’s only 2 :slight_smile: So, lord help me if he’s developed Cushings at 2. If so…I give up!

As for Flax, I have not tried it yet. I was attempting to give the PP some time to work. I may just be a tad impatient. He was put on it late in the game and they do say that the more extreme, prolonged the reactions have been, the longer it will take to see some sort of result.

I guess I more curious to hear about others experiences with either of the two.

Thanks for the ideas though! I will continue to have Flax in my mind.

I haven’t tried either but my mare with bad allergies has done well on quercitin and flax. I believe quercitin is in the PP, but in a lower dose than I find effective.

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I use the Kintetic Vet SA Powder …it seems to really help one of mine …the other not so much …Zyrtec or Trihist might help or hydroxyzine as far as antihistamines go …we turned to steroids for my mare and she developed acute laminitis …so I would avoid at all costs

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I haven’t used this Equishield product, only their topicals, but I usually find good pricing at Heartland Vet Supply, and they often have a coupon code.

I think while you still have some of the Platinum, consider adding flax and see how that goes. Also agree that maybe he needs a different antihistamine if you aren’t getting great results.

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He has already been on, and stopped responding to hydroxyzine. We started with Zyrtec, the switched to Hydroxyzine, then moved onto Cypro. It’s been an adventure.

We used trihist with our old mare but our vet hasn’t mentioned it for this guy. I actually thought it wasn’t in production anymore, but I guess it still is!

Thank you for the insight on the SA powder. I guess I’ll give the PP some more time to work before making any decisions on switching. Maybe the extreme goof up of the cypro being compounded incorrectly for the last 2 1/2 months made it harder to actually see an improvement from the PP.

I’ll look into adding the flax for sure. I think I’m close to being out of antihistamine options. I’ve listed what we’ve been through in my response above. At a loss is an understatement over here. I don’t really know what to do or try anymore.

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Have you found any relief for the allergies? If you fed flax, did you use whole or ground flax? I’m also fighting an allergy battle and hydrazine isn’t doing much.

I tried the SA Powder on my hubby’s gelding. No change after 3 months so stopped buying it.

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Just going to through this out there, vitamin E helped my "allergic to everything " pony quite a bit. He gets hives and breathing issues. Both improved on Vit E.
PP Skin and Allergy gave him terrible hives, so sometimes the cure is not a one size fits all.

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Cayuse. My horse has always been on added Natural Vit E, unfortunately it’s not helped avoid this itchy coat this year. I did just order Spirulina from Smartpak to see it will help.

I ordered the Kenetic shampoo and spray to see if it will help. Her skin is not dry though mane is very dry. Dry mane could be because of the Hydroxyzine.

i haven’t added flax since she won’t eat the powdered version. Afraid to add oils as she is a bit chunky as it is.

hopefully, this post will get some more suggestions for us

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i have a mare that I have never actually allergy tested, but we just assume she has allergies due to her constant itchiness, rubbing the middle half of her mane out every year, near constant case of scratches,and pretty constant watery eyes(sounds beautiful, eh?). This year is the first summer i have come out of the other side with a full mane and glossy tail and no scratches. This is also the first summer that she has been on PP allergy and flax seed(sometimes whole, sometimes ground). I really don’t love adding needlessly to their diets, but i have to say that I would hesitate to take her off either of these supplements.

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I have a horse who is horribly allergic to gnat bites. Like blows up like a balloon, loses all skin on his chest and sheath, allergic.

He gets the santacruz skin and allergy, which is materially identical to PP but way less expensive, and gets horsetech’s Respire for spirulina and chorella, plus horsetech buggzo to try to keep them from biting him in the first place, and omega horseshine for the omega-3s. He did not do as well on horsetech’s Profile supplement. This combination seems to have kept all our skin attached for 2 years running now.

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@Hayburner

My sincerest apologies for ghosting this thread. School started and it just got crazy.

My horse is incredibly picky. We have tried ground dark(normal) flax and he won’t eat it. I thought about trying golden ground flax because my research says that the darker flax has a more bitter taste to it. The golden flax has to come from a human store, like Sunflower Shoppe or something, and I just haven’t gotten around to getting it.

Cyproheptadine has helped more than Hydroxyzine did. He is still itchy, and the heat and bugs make it worse, but he’s somewhat manageable. To prep him for show season, I had to put a grazing muzzle on him 24/7 to keep his teeth off his legs. We cut the hole in the grazing muzzle a little bigger so he could eat easier since limiting food was not the goal of the muzzle. He adjusted very well and never had issues wearing it.

He has been on the PP for coming up on a year now…I don’t remember exactly when we started it. I think it was around December or January.

He is on allergy shots and has been for about a year and a half now. We went through the normal loading phase that took about 6 months to complete, then we switched to ‘maintenance’ which is supposed to be once a month, but his are so bad that we give shots twice a month.

I would like to get him skin tested rather than blood tested and have his serum updated, but it means pulling him off all meds for 4 weeks…and I just can’t do that to him while the temps are still high and the bugs are crazy.

I have found that Horseman’s Dream Veterinary Cream w/Aloe (https://www.amazon.com/Manna-Pro-Horsemans-Veterinary-16-Ounces/dp/B000A6ZOHI) works the best for softening and soothing his torn up skin. I have gone through A LOT in the last couple of months trying to prepare him for the last show of the season. It also helped soften the scarred skin over his hocks and he /almost/ looks normal…haha. I have another product that works really well, but is expensive for use on the horses. It’s a product used for Rock Climbers to help mend their torn up hands. (https://goclimbon.com/collections/climbon-skincare/products/climb-on-creme). Horseman’s has done a great job, is easy to put on, and last longer than the ClimbOn Skin Lotion. As much as I want to support ClimbOn’s awesome small business, I just needed too much of the product and couldn’t afford it anymore.

I use Eqyss Microtek for bathing, in combo with the soothing spray in his problem areas. (https://eqyss.com/products/sprays/micro-tek-spray/)

I also starting using Coat Defense as well. I like the shampoo. I normally do one round with the Eqyss rinse him really well and then dilute the Coat Defense and sponge it on and let it sit for 5 or so minutes. The mud and powder that also come from Coat Defense don’t do much for use since we aren’t dealing with fungus or sweet itch. But, I do like the shampoo.

For really bad spots, I have used bleach spray, chlorohexidine scrub that I picked up from a vet supply store(it’s NOT cheap), and Vetericyn Foam Care Medicated Shampoo (https://vetericyn.com/product/vetericyn-foamcare-equine-medicated-shampoo/?attribute_size=32oz) …just kind of depends on my mode and how bloody his legs are as to which one I use. Typically, I will only go the Chlorohexidine or Bleach route if I’ve done a skin scraping and it shows bacteria present.

All-in-all, We are in a better place than we were last year around this time, but he’s still very itchy. I am hoping he grows out of some of this. We also got a super fly sheet for him from the Netherlands…but it is so so big. It covers from head to toe and will be a savior for him once we can get it fitted correctly.(https://hypostore.com/busse-fly-rug-complete-plus.html)

Hope this helps give you some ideas. It’s a never ending battle, but I know my boy is worth it. We can make a horse allergies support group, because unless you have one, you really just don’t know the frustrations…

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I just found this thread. (I know it’s 2 years old) My Morgan developed severe allergies this summer and his itchiness and discompfort is not going away even in colder weather. I just wanted to ask, how much flax see do you feed? I will be doing the ground. Thanks!

My gelding was really picky and wouldn’t eat his food if there was too much stuff on it. I could get away with doing a 1/3 cup in each feeding. I used the golden ground flax from Triple Crown.

If your horse ends up liking the golden flax, Triple Crown sells a heat-stabilized ground golden flax in 25 pound bags. It is way less expensive than any product meant for humans. My guess is that other feed companies do the same.

This post was from a long time ago. I did end up using Triple Crown’s Golden Flax for about a year. Unfortunately, I lost my horse a few weeks ago in a pasture accident…so, I guess I don’t need it anymore.

I am so sad to hear that. I completely overlooked the date.

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