Knabstrupper stallion Lindegaards Elliott?

Any opinions? Sire apparently evented, dam was 1/2 TB so a little more blood which might be nice for eventing… Homozygous for spots… I have a TB mare who went Intermediate and an RPSI mare (1/2 TK so decently blooded) that went Prelim… One? Both? Argh choices…

Jennifer

Don’t know him. For awhile I was looking at knaps and Apps. I haven’t seen him. From his Facebook page he’s not very impressive. If I were advertising a stallion, I’d actually get good movement and jumping. And she says he’s tall, but she makes him look tiny. Either she’s 6’2", or he’s small.

You’re looking for eventing? For a knab, I was looking into Colorado Skodstrup. He went through the 3 day stallion testing and is a nice mover with nice jump.
http://www.avalon-equine.com/colorado.html Sale on breeding right now! Very experienced stallion handlers can make your breeding much easier.

You might also want to look here: http://www.altamontsporthorses.com/

The owner is very tall and an eventer. The owner specifically was looking at quality large maturing (over 16h) knabs when she went overseas. He is also very young at still 3/4. He was champion at his KNN grading and was imported from Denmark (late 2015) then promptly went to Virginia for his KNN testing earlier this year.

http://www.tiaraequine.com/knabstruppers.html

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The owner is very tall and an eventer. The owner specifically was looking at quality large maturing (over 16h) knabs when she went overseas. He is also very young at still 3. He was champion at his KNN grading and was imported from Denmark (early 2016) then promptly went to Virginia for his KNN testing earlier this year.

http://www.tiaraequine.com/knabstruppers.html[/QUOTE]

I was going to poke you and point you at this thread, glad you chimed in!

I like his canter… he’s not as nice a mover at the trot as Colorado Skodstrup (sp? mentioned up thread) but I like what I saw over fences. I bet he’ll be a good eventer :yes:

LOL … always feel free to do so Beowulf :slight_smile: Thanks for thinking of me :slight_smile:

I agree 100%. I really like him over fences and his canter. We need new Knab blood so getting some get of his in the USA would be nice. Colorado is nice but since he is not homozygous I understand the inquiry about Elliott :wink:

Elliot had a busy BUSY 2015 (sorry I forgot the KNN inspection was in late 2015). He has great potential and from what I have heard a good brain too. Young colt was imported from across the pond then traveled from Canada all they way to southern VA for the KNN grading. Then, after he went back to Canada he was started undersaddle.

You can see is scores here http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=da&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knab.dk%2F%3Fid%3D1177597

(Please ignore my giraffe. He was going through a terrible growth spurt and complete hide him in the backyard stage. Of course he would do that as soon as the Danish come … SMH)

OP… Melyni (CoTH member) saw him in person. He was at her farm for the inspection so you might want to reach out to her. I have spoken to the owner of the stallion a few times but Melyni has first hand experience.

If you want to register KNN, you will need to have the TB mare inspected, but I believe the RPSI mare won’t need inspection. If Melyni chimes in, she will know for sure.

If you are looking for spots, but not necessarily Knabstrupper, you might also want to look at the Appaloosas Wapuzzan and Butterwap Confetti - both of whom have progeny currently eventing.

The KNN only comes to inspect every 2 years. 2017 is that year but there are no dates made yet.

Another thing … RPSI inspection and approval doesn’t automatically mean KNN approval. KNN is the mother registry and RPSI is the sister registry. RPSI is suppose to carry over the same rules from KNN.

Colorado is the other one I am looking at… The special rate is tempting but looks like about 75% colored foals and with my luck I’d get a solid :frowning: pretty sure of the market for colored youngsters… Esp out of quality mares…

Jennifer

On solid mares you will only have a 50% chance of color with Colorado.

You will need to find a snowcap or fewspot to guarantee color (although you won’t be able to guarantee the pattern;)) Melyni’s stallion Halifax would fit the bill, but geared toward dressage.

Ok I had seen 70% somewhere but I THOUGHT it was a straight dominant modifier which would make it 50%…

I didnt know there were homozygous Waps stallions… That might be an option for the TB mare! Have inquired about Wapuzzan. Is Butterwap Confetti standing? Website looks very out of date and nothing on fb…

Jennifer

Melyni’s stallion is now a gelding. She may have some frozen saved that she will sell. She also has a LP stallion but only 50/50 chance for color. Her up and coming guy is super cute CCS CELEBORN.

The Mick would have also worked for you but I believe he has been gelded? Maybe frozen is available (he is KNN Graded).

Oh, I forgot Halifax was gelded. :o

There is also Pegasus vom Niehaus-hof but again, IMHO, better suited to dressage. He does cross well on TB, however. I do love my Pegasus 3yo to bits, and his brain is super, but in general he tends toward behind the leg. I just can’t picture him hauling butt across a xc course :winkgrin: Maybe the addition of the TB or TK would kick it up a notch.

Nootka, who is your favorite Knabstrupper out there for event talent right now? Homozygous/spots not a factor.

This is a SUPER hard question. Many are young and/or unproven.

I choose Colorado because he is proven and also has get on the ground competing. One being this one http://useventing.com/news/leopard-colored-knabstrupper-takes-home-feh-west-coast-champion-title

Next choice would be Ecuador (on a larger mare) or Elliott (especially because it brings a new line to the USA and if he had any show record or get he could be at the top easily). CCS Celeborn is also in this group (I like what I have seen but another young stallion that just needs time)

Thanks Nootka… Both my mares are petite, another reason I liked Elliot…

Jennifer

A few suggestions re Knabstruppers!

HI Guys,
Coming in late!
Halifax has been gelded but I do have frozen semen from him, so if you are interested in him, PM me.
I have seen Lindegaards Elliot free jump (he is only 3 yrs old), and I have seen Colorado and Ecuador jump, all 3 of them are excellent jumpers. Elliot has some real power and scope.
Of the 3, Ecuador (frozen only) and Elliot are both few spots and will give you the highest chance of spots on a solid mare.

But any of those 3 stallions will give you a nice foal, Colorado and Elliot have the advantage of being physically present in the USA, and thus you can use cooled shipped semen. All 3 are modern types and fairly light weight and elegant.
Halifax is a powerful tank, super mind, lots of bone, and great cross on a TB, but might be too heavy if your mare is chunky.

Pegasus is also a few spot, and has a fantastic canter, I have 3 daughters of his, and 2 of them are really good jumpers, the 3 rd has never been ridden or jumped due to injury.

Celeborn is by Ravaldi, who was a jumper in Europe in his day, out of a really high class Hannoverian mare by Dauphin, Celeborn is a super mover and jumps well, but he is not in the class of Colorado or Elliot. He is also only 3 yrs old, so things may yet improve. Ravaldi has a son who has evented thru Training level right here in the USA, CCS Boromir.

So of course I second the idea of using a Knabstrupper for your mare. Let me know if I can help.
MW

any videos of Celeborn?

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any videos of Celeborn?[/QUOTE]

Yes, somewhere! Might be up on You Tube under Cedar Creek Stables or under Melyni2.

Otherwise take a look on the FB page, Knabstrupper Breeders Network.

When I get home I will look for it and get the URL to you.

MW