Looks ugly. Boy that mare is a scrapper! She kept trying. :yes:
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Did you just say what I think you said?
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I wasn’t really “worried” about her. I know she’s in the same good hands she was when she stepped on that blanket pin after the Oaks 
@gumtree thanks for the additional comments. After seeing how scraped up that hind was, I don’t know that I would be thinking “minor” but probably not even career ending (if she was on the slate to continue racing). Strange business that I get prospectivee buyers buying the horse in front of them (after all, this board makes that same suggestion all the time ) rather than in this case, buying the mare knowing her past performance (on the track and coming back from laminitis) as well as her bloodlines. Wonder, ultimately, what she’ll sell for once she’s healed.
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It would bother me. A little. So would her current injury in light of her rather serious lamanitic episode after having the hoof injury.
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You are right.
Age
Weight gain in foal
Out on pasture, the key factor IMO
added to the previous laminitis, how severe? Was it founder? Putting on weight in foal and on pasture on those compromised hooves? Sure they grow out in a year, but…
Remember Secretariat? pasture, and laminitis. and a stud.
And how many of the horses sent to the KY Horse Park have been put down due to “laminitis?” a lot of studs.
I’d not breed the mare.
TBs should be allowed to use surrogates for foals.
Thank God Rachel Alexander’s interests have her best interest although of course she had foaling problems not laminitis.
Ouch…looks like her hind leg got run over by the front foot of one right behind her with that much skin MIA. Good thing it looks like superficial damage only, she’s lucky. Very good decision to pull her from a sale until later, agree she doesnt need to travel and that’s not going to look too good for awhile… Don’t see much connection with this hind leg injury and last laminitis trouble but time will tell…and, assuming there are no complications and she vets out, again, I’d probably still be very interested in her as a broodie if I win the lottery between now and spring
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She might be putting more weight on those front hooves with her hind leg injuries. I hope they put her in soft ride boots.
Those of us who have been through laminitis for reasons other than diet know the problems involved here.
Not Keeneland but Lady Eli would fit right in with these
Randy Moss may not be great when it comes to eventing or dressage or showjumping… but he really DOES know racing. You seem to have known who he was after all - and yet declared that the “NBC announcers” knew nothing about horses… what were they saying that convinced you of that? I am genuinely interested in what you heard! I agree with whoever noted upthread that they tend to “dumb things down” a bit for the big racing telecasts. As compared to say… TVG on a regular race day where they are all about workouts and fractions and Beyer figures…
Lady Eli got mugged in her race… 
Was I the only one who thought that Arrogate was not going to bounce back to his BCC 2016 or Dubai World Cup form?
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Oh, please. You’re not “genuinely interested.” If you were, you would have paid attention when you read my post. What I “heard” was what several COTHers posted about him during the Olympics, slamming him and his commentary on the equestrian competitions. Implying he didn’t know what he was talking about. It wasn’t a huge leap of logic to figure that if NBC hired him to do the Olympics, about which he knew little, they would also hire him to do horse races whether he was knowledgeable about them or not. And, if he is as knowledgeable as some have said in this thread, about racing, why didn’t he educate himself a little about equestrian Olympic competitions before the Games?
As to your thoughts on Arrogate, no, you were not the only one. The commentators I heard made him sound like a superstar. He’s not. He’s a horse. A young, much-traveled horse at that. He’s not a rock star going out to wow the fans and make a buck. He’s a horse.
I’ve never paid much attention to the Breeders’ Cup, since it is a relatively recent addition to my experience watching racing. On Saturday it was touted as the “Olympics” of horse racing. Yet its “Classic” is only a 1 1/4 mile race, a distance 3-year-olds run in May before tackling the 1 1/2 mile Belmont. I would have expected an end-of-season “Classic” to be at least 1 1/2 miles long.
What I saw at Ascot were some truly classic-distance races … and those were way back in June. So by November classic contenders should be running 1 1/2 mile races. At least. The Melbourne Cup? Now, *that" is a classic.
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I said that anyone who watched the Keeneland ads and thinks the auction is similar to New Holland is an idiot. Hopefully you did not interpret that as me insulting you, if so, apologies. I do recommend a quick Google search, like I did on the commentators, before posting, if you are not solid on the subject about which you are posting. Nobody minds that some people are less informed about racing, but they do care when people jump to conclusions and put up information online that is incorrect and misrepresents the industry.
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I thought the Breeders Cup had been around for quite awhile and has been telecast on a broadcast network most of those years? Shouldn’t be new to anybody’s viewing experience unless they are quite young. And I can see why some think it’s unimportant since it lacks a 1 1/2 Classic. Guess that’s why Europeans and Mahktoums largely ignore it, don’t compete in it and avoid buying or breeding to US breds or basing breeding operations in the States.
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Why can’t new viewers tune in every year, regardless of age? This makes it sound like everyone has either watched it on TV since its inception or just started watching when they were old enough.
If you want relatively knowledgeable commentary and handicapping, you watch something like TVG (well, until TwinSpires won’t release the rights to broadcast the races live that TwinSpires owns those go to NBC(SN)).
I am not sure I think that the “Europeans” and “Mahktoums” would show up any more than they already do if the “Classic” was run on dirt at 1 1/2 miles. You just don’t see many foreign-born horses competing in dirt races in this country. The bulk of the European contingent races both at home and here on the turf. The BC turf races were, IMO, well attended by horses from across the pond. After all, we don’t send many horses over to Europe either.
Races in the US in general are shorter than European races. Why on earth should we have our "“Classic” be a distance very few horses in this country have a chance to race, 1.5miles, before the Classic? If the US is going to continue to pursue the shorter distance races, yes, maybe the Europeans may disregard US breeding stock for horses destined to compete in Europe. US breeders are going to breed to be competitive on this continent.
As for basing breeding operations in the US, don’t tell that to places like Juddmonte Farms or Darley America or Coolmore America.
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WMW, I was being somewhat sarcastic…apparently not well.
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One can be highly educated on a particular portion of the horse industry without being familiar with other aspects of it, as evidenced by your own posts on this thread. Randy Moss has been covering horse racing for quite some time now, but he is not often called upon to cover other equestrian events. It’s not surprising, then, that he would be less familiar with those sports - or that the higher ups a NBC would assume that a horse is a horse and therefore someone who covers one horse sport is a good choice to cover another one.
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BLUE is me…
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To add some “perspective” on the original topic… why Lady Eli to “auction”…
Last night at the Fasig-Tipton November Breeding stock sale, Songbird hammered at $9.5M and Tepin hammered at $8M in foal to Curlin.
I don’t think Lady Eli would have brought quite that much but some perspective that these “auctions”, while yes an auction, are a nice place to get multiple buyers in a single location to see how much a nice (in the case of Songbird, a bit of an understatement) can be sold for.
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Songbird was 9.5 million
Whoops… thanks Laurierace, got that fixed.
Today’s example for you OP, of an owner who is interested in racing and breeding horses is Bobby Flay (who most often buys fillies at the sales).
He bought a full sister to Well Armed in foal to American Pharoah for 1.25M today at Keeneland Sales (auction).
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