Lainey Ashker: What happened?

No you’re right, its not that long ago. It is also on a public account.

I just can’t get over how whiny she is over 3 rails. I know people who have had 8 rails and never say boo. Shows character.

[QUOTE=Horseshavefeelingstoo;8569719]
Keep supporting THIS:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LEAshker/status/540702486244646912[/QUOTE]

:eek: Past actions aside, she needs a PR/social coach yesterday.

[QUOTE=JER;8570526]
It’s from about 15 months ago. Not exactly the dark ages.

‘Young and dumb’ doesn’t apply to that tweet. There are other terms that apply better, like ‘homophobic’ and ‘mean-spirited’. To me, this is especially shameful in a sport that has a modern history of openness and equality.

Lainey, sorry about the three rails. You deserved more, like maybe ten rails and also a couple of stops.[/QUOTE]
Ouch! :eek::lol:

You do get me to laugh at times. I agree in spirit, but karma being karma, I’ll refrain from more public comment.

That twitter was ugly though :mad:

[QUOTE=Horseshavefeelingstoo;8569719]
Keep supporting THIS:

https://mobile.twitter.com/LEAshker/status/540702486244646912[/QUOTE]

Is there a meaningful difference between “follower” and “stalker?” :winkgrin:

I would have felt awful if my old jumper mare had three rails, I would assume I really messed up, overfaced, her or something was REALLY wrong with her. Now and then we’d pick a turn that was a bit TOO risky, but she liked that kind of stuff and didn’t take the rail personally.

That said, I find Lainey an interesting “real time” “accessible” way to view the use of social media, particularly as an old lady (me, not her).

I appreciate her posting gymnastic exercises for “free” as I am a gymnastic lover, and the videos are well done and well edited. She also shares a lot of emotion, and I appreciate seeing that upper level riders share our struggles.

And then, now and then you have what I call an “outburst” that is not well thought out. But, again, that is educational for me…as I think anyone on social media has had an odd moment, and if you haven’t, you will,

mine was really scary as someone took a personal post to mean about work and constructed a pretty good “circumstantial evidence” case that really did look incriminating even if you knew “the truth” and the ONLY thing that saved me was I had taken leave officially, I was on my OWN computer, and one my OWN internet. And, when legal checked it out, the timing was off just a bit on things…It was truly scary as someone who wants to “get you” can. I would think people in the public I would be more careful after one incident, but I am not “famous” (maybe infamous) so don’t know that mentality.

Best to think things out, “pretend post” - I feel like she just hits send too soon, partially because she is very willing to share all details of her life.

Most public people are controversial - not all like them, and that is the world we live in.

As for the tweet, I am a bit surprised, given the date, but then again, I HATE Peter Pan. Actually HATE IT. Nothing to do with who might watch it, but I don’t get it, am totally creeped out by it, and have no desire to get anywhere near or even talk about it with anyone. I can see me having a strong reaction to it, not bringing up the gender preference angle, but posting about how I hated hearing about it. (Sorry, can you tell i HATE Peter Pan?)

[QUOTE=LadyB;8569815]
You must love to hate her, so much that you follow her?

Although I’m curious, why would a working student want to work for her, with an ad that states not paid, but you can bring your horse and pay for board with it. Seems a little odd. Usually if its not paid, at least the horse is covered. I don’t know why any parent would send their teenager to work and not get something out of it, yes you learn to groom and all that jazz, but you can find that with a bit more incentives, especially with the enormous amounts of ads posted on EN. Wonder if your travel is even covered? Such a weird ad I thought. You want a long term groom or someone who will last longer than 6 months… then you might want to give a little more than working for someone ‘awesome’.[/QUOTE]

That’s a trip, right? But not so crazy and unheard of. Check this out: some kids’ parents send them off to be WS and for the honor of scooping poop and becoming wash stall trolls, they pay board for one or more horses, board for themselves, and they pay the “employer.” Quite often they end up buying a horse (usually brought in from Europe) from said employer, “the only horse that can get [insert name of trust-fund-millenial baby] to Advanced and then Olympics!!” and no, they don’t get no employee discount, LOL. Seen it.

[QUOTE=akor;8572888]
As for the tweet, I am a bit surprised, given the date, but then again, I HATE Peter Pan. Actually HATE IT. [/QUOTE]

But hating Peter Pan – or any work of fiction – doesn’t make you a bigot.

But a tweet like Lainey’s does.

There’s no excuse for bigotry, no matter how casual it may appear.

Sort of over the top, considering. I was at the fence when Frodo died. I watched her tear ass down the hill, it was not pretty.
As for the social media thing, I get the impression that she needs the attention.
But if one wants to be thought of as a professional I think she needs to back it off and sound a bit more mature. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Sannois;8573184]
Sort of over the top, considering. I was at the fence when Frodo died. I watched her tear ass down the hill, it was not pretty.
As for the social media thing, I get the impression that she needs the attention.
But if one wants to be thought of as a professional I think she needs to back it off and sound a bit more mature. Just my opinion.
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Agreed. She posted a helmet cam video a month or so ago saying something like “Okay I feel ridiculous/silly for posting a helmet cam from Novice…” and I replied that Novice is big to a lot of people (myself included) and that not everyone gets to skip around 4* XC courses all the time. She had a mini melt down over that comment, which looking back was kind of a bitter thing for me to say, but she doesn’t seem to conduct herself well online especially when things don’t go her way/someone disagrees with her.

[QUOTE=skipollo;8573272]
Agreed. She posted a helmet cam video a month or so ago saying something like “Okay I feel ridiculous/silly for posting a helmet cam from Novice…” and I replied that Novice is big to a lot of people (myself included) and that not everyone gets to skip around 4* XC courses all the time. She had a mini melt down over that comment, which looking back was kind of a bitter thing for me to say, but she doesn’t seem to conduct herself well online especially when things don’t go her way/someone disagrees with her.[/QUOTE]

I would have so much more respect for an ULR that felt proud of the accomplishment and posted the video with vigor. To me it just earns them much more credibility and demonstrates they are still genuine enough to remember that EVERY level is important. Perhaps for that horse getting around a Novice course was a really big deal, why not be happy about it and share that with your followers?

I’m so tempestuous when it comes to “JUST Novice, or JUST Training, or JUST Maiden”. When my new guy makes his debut at BN this Summer I’ll be as proud of him as I am of Cotton when he makes his debut at Training (and so forth and so on). Same thing when a rider moves up or has a successful run at {insert level here}. Accomplishment is accomplishment. It doesn’t have to have a meter attached to it.

Sorry. Off the soapbox.

[QUOTE=ACMEeventing;8573406]
I would have so much more respect for an ULR that felt proud of the accomplishment and posted the video with vigor. To me it just earns them much more credibility and demonstrates they are still genuine enough to remember that EVERY level is important. Perhaps for that horse getting around a Novice course was a really big deal, why not be happy about it and share that with your followers?

I’m so tempestuous when it comes to “JUST Novice, or JUST Training, or JUST Maiden”. When my new guy makes his debut at BN this Summer I’ll be as proud of him as I am of Cotton when he makes his debut at Training (and so forth and so on). Same thing when a rider moves up or has a successful run at {insert level here}. Accomplishment is accomplishment. It doesn’t have to have a meter attached to it.

Sorry. Off the soapbox.[/QUOTE]

Hell yeah, man. And my 33.8 dressage score may as well have been someone else’s 15 with how proud I was of it. Hate when people play the Balls Olympics where anything below a certain level is just eyeroll-worthy and meaningless.

[QUOTE=ACMEeventing;8573406]

I’m so tempestuous when it comes to “JUST Novice, or JUST Training, or JUST Maiden”. When my new guy makes his debut at BN this Summer I’ll be as proud of him as I am of Cotton when he makes his debut at Training (and so forth and so on). Same thing when a rider moves up or has a successful run at {insert level here}. Accomplishment is accomplishment. It doesn’t have to have a meter attached to it.

Sorry. Off the soapbox.[/QUOTE]

me too, me too!!! And one of my biggest annoyances is when someone says, “Oh he’s just a little off the track thoroughbred.” GRRRR!!! OTTBs are not JUST anything!!!

I remember that post. Really irked me. its not JUST Novice to many riders. BN is HUGE to some, heck a CT is HUGE to some. Prelim is a big scary deal to me, but so was Training when I was upgrading and so was Novice when I upgraded to that.

For someone who coaches students, to make that remark is just stupid. Immature and clearly rude. She got offended, and maybe it wasn’t her intentions, but the way she worded it came off completely rude and hurt many LL rider feelings. MANY of her followers are LL riders… so thats a big crowd she is insulting.

I too had a front-row seat for that one - one of the reasons I struggle to continue spectating at events. I want to, and I do, but I always hold my breath, and sometimes can’t even watch.