Last Minute Surprises when you're Horse Shopping... share your experiences

Been doing some horse shopping. Found an ad for a nice mare. Video looked great. There was a dog chasing the mare through most of the video and horse didn’t care/ Nice w/t/c and popped nicely over some jumps. Looked like a push ride.

Called and made an appt to go see said mare. Chatted for a bit explaining I needed beginner safe and set up a time.

Went out to see mare. One of the working students rode her (she was a good rider) but every time she cantered down the long side… swap swap swap buck.

Change directions swap swap buck.

She hasn’t been ridden in a few weeks so she’s a bit amped up.

This fits in to the definition of “beginner safe” how?

[QUOTE=allons-y;8819486]
I had outgrown my Tony the Pony, 11 HH, that didnt take long, 2 years maybe.

“7” yo red gelding in the paper, my dad actually wanted him for himself. I agreed to share, he was in the Sheriff’s Mounted Posse. So off we went to see him.

HO said he could be “hard to catch in the pasture”. Of course, all he had was pasture.Probably 20 open acres of pasture. HO loaded Dad and I in his truck and off we went to “catch” the horse. Remember the movie “Safari” or something? They roped giraffes and Zebras from trucks - well, thats what we did to catch this horse!

He was very sweet after he was caught, rode well and we bought him. We said we would be back with a trailer tomorrow, but NO. HO said “HUP” and Straw the wonder horse jumped in the bed of the truck, flatfooted. He skidded in the bed until his chest hit the back of the cab. HO said “there you go”.

We actually took him home that way, him looking over the cab, mane and forelock blowing in the wind. Come on, I was 11 and both of us were stupid I guess.

After every bath, he got lighter. He was actually a palimino, living like a feral horse for years in Alabama red clay. Former HO said he hadn’t been touched in years.

He was really a wonder horse, we did practically everything and won almost everything we competed at. And he wore that horrible, heavy black parade saddle, with silver things everywhere and tapaderos for parades with my Dad. He went on S&Rescue missions with him and hoity toity English shows with me.

He looked ridiculous conformation-wise, long body, long neck, short legs. He won every trotting race us kids had at the barn too. Maybe some Standardbred in there somewhere…

Best impulse buy ever.[/QUOTE]

I love this story.

Did he get easier to catch?

I went to see a horse in the Pine Barrens (nice sandy soil) - roughly two hours from where I live. Cheap, but not SUPER cheap. I drive down there, and find out when I get down there - oh, he put his foot through barbed wire a few months ago, but he’s been sound after being brought back to work. The cut goes all the way up through the coronary band, and will never grow back together. Meanwhile I live where the red clay can get hard as rock during the summer drought, and wanted something to jump 2’6". I passed.

2 different incidents involving horses advertised as hunter/jumper packer types:

The first one had a dirty stop that pitched my daughter into the fence twice. Why would you advertise this horse as a hunter/jumper at all? Obviously he hates the job. Think of something different for him to do.

The second one… well, at least this seller gave full disclosure when asked a direct question. “His one thing is… a lot of times he won’t go over a jump the first time he sees it. So have your trainer take him over all the jumps first, then you should be okay.” Sure enough, he stopped when our trainer rode him, and the seller explained he had only seen that particular jump from the opposite direction. Again, why is this horse being billed as a hunter/jumper? Surely a different job would suit him better.

Went to see a horse that ended up being blind in one eye. Of course I asked for any physical defects, injuries, illnesses, blemishes or disabilities. Was told the horse was 100% sound and healthy.

My latest project arrived full of surprises (thankfully most of them good). I did everything you should NEVER do when buying a horse but figured he was worth the risk. I purchased him off of one poor quality, somewhat unattractive picture with no vet check etc and kept my fingers crossed that he was sound. My logic in this was that the horse looked like he needed an upgrade, with the asking price providing the horse was sound, and somewhat safe to be around I should be able to recoup what I would put into him. I was told that the horse was green broke, had no vices and no soundness issues and had been imported as a yearling as a stallion prospect.

What arrived was a barely halter broke warmblood that looked like a sway backed under weight Arabian. He cribbed, nipped, and after I got some weight and muscle on him and attempted to ride him confirmed he may have been sat on (this is a big maybe) but certainly could not be considered green broke: no steering, no understanding of leg, bucking was his way of expressing anything he didn’t like… None of this was really that big a surprise and was all stuff I went into the purchase prepared to deal with.

The good, happy and bigger surprises were: He was 100% sound, had exceptionally clean legs, and the seller wasn’t lying about him being a lovely mover. When I researched his breeding he was bred to JUMP with his sire scoring 10 in jumping at his SPT and producing multiple offspring who had scored the same, plus his dam’s side also had a lot of good jumper breeding. He has turned out WAY nicer than I ever thought he would possibly too nice as I now want to keep him… He is very modern, has a MASSIVE stride for a “little” horse, is game to jump anything, and is just in general a fun horse to work with.

[QUOTE=StormyDay;8818577]
Almost 10 years ago I went and looked at a horse. The photos looked nothing like what the horse actually looked like, but I had driven a few hours so I figured that every horse deserves a chance. In the photos he was well fed, well groomed, and overall well conformed. They claimed he had been jumping 2 foot courses. In reality, the thing was really underweight and strangely put together. It looked like a two year old, even though he was much older.
Well, I had driven a few hours so i figured I might as well get on. The lady who tacks the horse up doesn’t look like she had ridden a day in her life, and didn’t want to get on, so she leads him up to the mounting block talking the whole time about how calm he is and how wonderful he is under saddle. I go ahead and swing on up there and she starts leading me around the ring, which I thought was weird but maybe she was afraid I wasn’t as good of a rider as I claimed.
The horse was tense and had little nervous poops, but overall was polite and followed her around. When it was obvious that the horse was not about to spook and take off with me, so I told her that I would go ahead and trot around without her leading me.
She said “really so soon? This is his first ride after all.”
Turns out the horse WAS two, had never been ridden before, and her idea of jumping two foot courses was chasing the horse over jumps in the arena. He was ‘so good under saddle’ because he was good at lunging… With a saddle on.

And that is how I taught a strangers horse how to be ridden :lol:[/QUOTE]

Omg!!! I needed this! I can’t stop laughing!!

I drove 4 hours to see a 14H 3 year old Leopard Appaloosa. When I get there, they show me a 13.2H grey (and so grey she was completely white) 5 year old welshX. No spots, or fleabites or anything and no appaloosa characteristics. As I am standing looking at this perfectly white pony, the owner says “and you can see all of her leopard spots all over her”. There was no spot, fleabite, speck anything on that white coat! I have no idea what she was seeing.

Couple of years ago a friend of mine was horse shopping. We took her trailer and drove 4 hours to look at an 8 year old (I think) western pleasure paint mare. Get there, they get mare out and she’s a little on the lean side, not real healthy looking. Girl rides her, has to whack her to pick up the lope - mind you, this was supposed to be a finished WP horse. My friend rode her and got the same results, had to pop her with a rein end to lope, and she bucked into it. Already I am “hell no”. For $8500 there’s just no way. We discuss in the truck and I talk her out of this horse. Sorry for the empty trailer, but she needs a TON of work that my friend didn’t have the skill set for.

A week later friend mentions that she was going to call them with an offer. I about had a stroke. Someone I stumbled online across something that said the mare has PSSM (maybe on her all breed pedigree?). Funny how that wasn’t disclosed AT ALL. No wonder she was so thin and they said they didn’t believe in feeding grain. Or vets. Or anything else. Fortunately I told friend, who asked them outright, and she passed on the horse. yeesh.

[QUOTE=Tee;8834287]
Couple of years ago a friend of mine was horse shopping. We took her trailer and drove 4 hours to look at an 8 year old (I think) western pleasure paint mare. Get there, they get mare out and she’s a little on the lean side, not real healthy looking. Girl rides her, has to whack her to pick up the lope - mind you, this was supposed to be a finished WP horse. My friend rode her and got the same results, had to pop her with a rein end to lope, and she bucked into it. Already I am “hell no”. For $8500 there’s just no way. We discuss in the truck and I talk her out of this horse. Sorry for the empty trailer, but she needs a TON of work that my friend didn’t have the skill set for.

A week later friend mentions that she was going to call them with an offer. I about had a stroke. Someone I stumbled online across something that said the mare has PSSM (maybe on her all breed pedigree?). Funny how that wasn’t disclosed AT ALL. No wonder she was so thin and they said they didn’t believe in feeding grain. Or vets. Or anything else. Fortunately I told friend, who asked them outright, and she passed on the horse. yeesh.[/QUOTE]

I’m nitpicking here because your point is clearly that the owners didn’t take care of the horse:

Horses with PSSM should never have grain. So if the owners were ignorant or neglectful, that particular choice worked out well for the horse.

No, they were saying they didn’t believe in feeding grain, rather than saying they couldn’t feed her grain because of the PSSM. I think she was well taken care of, but they excused her shape because of anything but what it actually was.

My sailmaker husband worked with a lady who bred Arabians. One day he came home telling me she had a free!!! purebred papered mare she wanted to give me. ( keep in mind I had not had a horse in over 20 years) my reaction…3 legs no tail? No one gives purebred paper4ed Arabians away. No thanks.
Well she sold the mare…good.
Then he told me we we’re going to see her colt. We? Colt? " just to get a sniff of horse…c’mon it will be fun. Ok-but am NOT in the market for a horse…even if it’s my favorite breed. No horse. No. NONONONONO

They put put me against the fence and out of the barn led this perfect! GORGEOUS purebred 3 1/2 yr halter broke old colt. Who, knowing he was on inspection arched that perfect neck, flared that Oh so long tail away up over his butt and floated across the yard whereby he stuck that tiny muzzle in my chest and nickered oh so gently. I-had been had. Set up and knocked down…by my husband and his coworker. Sigh…the grin on their faces…wish I had a camera.

so…of course I had to have him. Had no place to put him, or fence to keep him in. Or any tack of any kind. I had his attitude adjusted before bringing him home…I had no use for a stud colt.

DAi Sha Voo was with us for 18 years…a very short 18 years. In that time he won over my never been around a horse husband. Charmed the entire neighborhood. Gave me endless hours of eye candy. Was instrumental in the creation of my horse hunting safety gear (and a business was born.) saved my sanity many times…who here has done a midnight barn check-ending up with your face in a mane for just a quick snuggle? I still miss those…and the sweet scent of a horse.

his presence was a life changing event. I wouldn’t change a thing except I needed him to be here another 18 years

advancing age and life changes preclude owning another horse.

I got a horse I was not even in the market for. Surprise!

awww he’s beautiful! loved your story!

Went out to see a Morgan/Arabian cross type for a ‘free lease’ situation. I was in school for equine business at the time and the person needed someone to ride the horse as she didn’t have a ton of time. Horse was said to be broke w/t/c, jumping little cross rails, etc. etc. She rode horse around the ring but it was quite an eventful ride in a ‘ring’ that was so small it made me feel very uncomfortable. I (for some reason) decided to get on. Horse was okay, but super green and needed LOTS of work. He then proceeded to try and bite/kick at her every time we went past her… He was cute but not a situation I wanted to deal with.

In high school I went out to see a friend of a friend’s Morgan gelding at a little backyard barn. Plan was to free lease him now that the girl was going to college. SUPER cute and an amazing jumper in videos/pictures. The girl rides him around the uneven front yard out in the open with the trainer/BO watching on and telling me how he is a jumper and will never be a nice flat horse, he doesn’t collect at all and is very forward. I get on and he proceeds to trot and canter around on the bit, super adjustable, collecting, extending, really nice ride. BO is shocked and says he’s never done that before. I’m no pro or anything, but I agreed to take him. He’s a little anxious at the new barn and doesn’t like being away from the other horses but I have a lot of fun jumping him around with friends. Fast forward about a month in and we find out the undisclosed… His anxiety becomes SO bad that he ended up covered in hives - the worst that I’ve ever seen. This was about ten years ago so I can’t remember everything, but vet said he had some condition and the owner mentions that he struggles with being away from ‘home’ and has never really been off her farm since he was a colt - and when he is he breaks out in hives all over his body. Vet says it can be managed for about $300 a month. I pay the bill and off he goes, back home. I probably explained it badly, but it was a very weird situation and I was out a good amount of money and sad that my first ‘having my own horse’ experience had to end as such. He eventually went to a young girl whose family was able to pay for whatever was happening to him.

For my two that I did end up buying, the first was bought sight unseen over the phone after seeing pictures and videos online. She became a lovely horse, with a great jump and dressage. Taught me a ton as we headed into the eventing world together. Only selling her now to try to give her a better situation than I can provide now that my life situation has changed a bit (growing up :cry:), she’s a little too much horse for me now that I’m not riding as much.

My gelding I drove out to see on my own. I wasn’t completely sold but felt safe on him and bought him the next day. He’s a wonderful horse, but we’ve been sorting out some things (lyme, back issues = new custom saddle that needs to be adjusted a lot, and some abscesses). I don’t think it’s anything that would’ve come up on a prepurchase but he’s a great horse so I’ll do what I need too.

[QUOTE=PeteyPie;8834297]
I’m nitpicking here because your point is clearly that the owners didn’t take care of the horse:

Horses with PSSM should never have grain. So if the owners were ignorant or neglectful, that particular choice worked out well for the horse.[/QUOTE]

PSSM horses CAN have grain, you just need to have low NSC. My PSSM gelding in on grain.

Back to the program…

Years ago we went to look at a horse some good friends of ours had. I’d seen the horse and really liked him. Cute blood bay cowy QH gelding. He proceeded to rear with me who knows how many times. Out of respect for the friendship I schooled him and worked him through it. They ‘hadn’t ever seen him do that’. They ended up selling him to other friends and he ended up bucking that guy off and seriously hurting him.

I was horse hunting this spring. I was looking for a foxhunting prospect since my mare got injured and has to sit this season out. I had a very strict criteria as I was looking for a project that I could resale.

I found a great prospect that was already hacking out with hounds, although 1" shorter and a little older than I wanted. Oh well, he was quiet, sound, and had quite a bit of training on him. And he was very affordable… well 2 days before we were scheduled to look at him/pick him up someone that said they were interested in him 2 months ago contacted her and told her that they had arranged shipping. She felt committed to the previous tire kicker and I wasn’t going to get in a bidding war over a horse that was 7 hours away and I had never met… Heart crushed but I was optimistic that there was another perfect horse out there for me…

After searching through hundreds of ads I found something that I thought could work… A 2 hour drive one way, went to look at him the afternoon we were supposed to be leaving with the horses to go camping for the weekend. He was grey, 15.2 hands, kid broke but a little too much horse for her 4 year old child hence why she was selling him. Some of his pictures made him look like a lama but some of the pictures looked pretty decent. Cute mover from the videos…

Well we drove all that way and turns out she gave us the wrong address. Took us 45 minutes out of the way and she had to come find us… ok… get there and she has 2 2yo stud colts out with her mixed herd of mares and geldings… ok… grey horse lets me catch him, he may have been 14.2 hands… not what i wanted but if we can get hm to stick as a pony this could work. I ask how long it’s been since he’s been ridden. 3 months since he’s been touched, but the farrier is coming out next week… ok… we were parked in the pasture and all the babies were running around the trailer and freaking him out, all the while she’s telling me the life stories about every other horse than the one I’m there to look at… I ended up getting him tacked up. Asked her what kind of a bit she rode him in and she pulls out a homemade gag, and went on and on about how gentle it was!!! She ‘wasn’t dressed to ride’ and walked off to the barn… I should have called it quits there but I’m glutton for punishment.

I was supposed to ride him in the pasture so we walked away from the trailer. I tried to stop him so I could mount. NOPE, we didn’t have breaks and the little sh*t took me skiing across the pasture towards the barn. NOTHING I did could get him to disengage his front or hind end and pay attention to me. Finally I got him turning in circles around me, aka spinning. And untacked him while he was spinning and dragging me across the pasture, had the SO grab my saddle as I yanked it off his back and took his bridle off and let him go. I was not about to get on his back if I didn’t have steering or breaks on the ground. She seemed shocked when I said we were going to pass.

A month later we ended up driving all night to go look at a grey 16 hand 4yo qh gelding that some rodeo people had. All I really had was a grainy video and some pictures. But he seemed perfect. Although WAAAAYYYY over budget… He was sold first come first serve, no holds. Like I said we drove all night, ended up leaving the house at 7pm that Friday night, slept in the trailer for 3 hours in a Walmart parking lot, test rode him at 8am the next morning. It had rained a lot that evening so they opted to haul him to their neighbors with a nice arena. He was supposed to be 16 hands, he’s a BIG 16.1 and growing. He was supposed to be QH (grade), and while he may have QH in him somewhere it’s not recent. He has alot of TB blood and possibly some WB by how his head and rump is shaped.

The owner rode him, very much a roper type of rider (heavy handed and no leg). Horse did exactly everything he was supposed to be and was perfect in for somewhere he’d never been before. I got on and rode him and had to fight to keep a huge grin off my face. THIS WAS IT. I got off him and asked who I made the check out to.

We did the necessary paperwork, all the while the owner was fussing about how he didn’t really want to sell him but his wife was making him, too many horses… I ask what his name is, he said he’d been calling him Goose. We get Goose loaded and before we get to the road the SO and I looked at each other and were thinking the same thing. Goose dies, so we shall call him Maverick (Top Gun reference).

He’s green and needs miles but he’s been exposed to so much already and has the best brain. I can ride him everyday or once a month and he’s the exact same horse as I rode last time. I hate a grey, I swore I’d never own one… but this one may change my mind. It’s going to be too easy to sell him and I’m not sure I want to anymore…

Many moons ago, before selling online was popular, I was in search of a horse using the local classifieds.

I called about a “grandkid safe” 12 year old. I talked to the seller for a while. I explained I was looking for a horse for my son to learn to ride on. He was 7 or 8 years old. I was not looking for a leadline horse. I thought I was clear about that.

He sounded perfect so I went to try him. She lead out this thin horse that one look told me he was at least 20. When I mentioned he looked older than 12, the seller told me they were told he was 12 when they bought him a couple years back (he didn’t age in that time?) and suspected he was older than they were told.

Okay. He will put on weight with some groceries and age is not a deal breaker if he’s kid safe.

I took him on a short ride up the road as there was really no where to ride on the property. While he was nice, he was forward. He gave the impression he liked to move out. Not really a horse for a child just learning to ride.

I told the seller I thought the horse was a bit too much for my son.

“Well, can’t you lead him around? That’s what we do.”

Great thread. Makes me feel better about some of the horses I’ve seen. btw, the horses listed were advertised as perfect for beginners.

TWH, 12 years old. Was told in emails the mare was a great trail horse, loved going out, bomb-proof, very sweet with good ground manners. When I arrived the trainer spilled the beans. The mare was so hot/hyper the previous owners spayed her, when that didn’t work they drugged her and sold her to the current owner. Mare had run off and dumped the owner and trainer several times. She had terrible ground manners, just watching the trainer ride her made me nervous, she was so hot/hyper. I didn’t get on. 4.5k

Grade buckskin, I was told on the phone that he was a great, sound, safe trail horse. Been everywhere. He was either lame or had something neurologicaly wrong. Would pop up its right front every few steps. Stumbled a lot. They had a crop and said to tap him on the should when he popped up his leg or stumbled. Didn’t want to leave the property. I didn’t get on him. 5k.

Grade 11 year old pinto. Was told in email she loved going on trails, great trail horse, went everywhere, just spent a year with a trainer, well trained, picked up leads, etc. When I arrived, all the horse would do was back up unless you turned her in a tight circle. Refused to go anywhere. The owner still talked about how great she was as the horse kept backing up. 3.5k

Beautiful 8 year old buckskin gelding, QH with no papers. On the phone I was told he was a good trail horse, went everywhere, trailered, and good in the arena, nothing bothered him on the trail. When I arrived: didn’t want to leave his stall, didn’t want to go into the arena. Horrible stifle problems, I felt so bad for him, his back end would lock up and collapse. He kept trying to leave the arena, he looked untrained. I didn’t ride. 5k (because he was so pretty!!)

Fox Trotter, 9 years old. On the phone I was told the reason for selling is because the owner’s son was into girls and not riding any more. Was assured he was a great trail horse, went everywhere, sound, no bad habits, etc. When I arrived: horrible, horrible ground manners, pulled back when tied, very head-shy, owner admitted that he never cleaned the horse’s feet because he wouldn’t pick them up. Did nothing but rear when the owner tried to ride. Obviously I didn’t get on. 4.5k

I got one of those happy surprises once. A neighbor was giving away 4 horses, due to cancer/back surgery/age. Neither one of the folks would be riding again, so just looking for good homes.
3 were paints, not my cup of tea, but the 4th was a gorgeous dark bay QH, foundation type with a kind eye. He bucks and jigs, was told. Miles on the trail will probably fix that, I thought, and walked him the mile home.
They had insisted I take his bridle, so glad I did, or I would still be scratching my head. Got home, put his bridle on to see what I had to work with, the Tom Thumb bit was hanging 2 inches too low and banging his front teeth.
Swapped out for a fat snaffle and rode off on my perfect trail horse.

[QUOTE=x;8834152]

There was no spot, fleabite, speck anything on that white coat! I have no idea what she was seeing.[/QUOTE]

imaginary dollar signs?