Latest updates on the Philippe Karl Légèreté series for Instructors

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The California one is on Facebook. The organizer and host is Kit West. She will be happy to answer questions. I am going as an auditor every day. Some of the requirements have been relaxed somewhat. I am really looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]

Could you put this FB link on here for me/us? Thx :slight_smile:

On Facebook you can get info by searching Kit West. The info is also here:

http://www.legerete-usa.com/flagstaff/

It says Flagstaff since that’s where this group started but Kit has moved it to her beautiful farm in Murrietta; better weather year round. All the contact info and schedule as at that link.

I am so looking forward to it.

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The graduate that I am aware of is Isla Adderson from British Columbia. I believe she is the first in North America to succesfully complete the course.
https://www.facebook.com/PhilippeKarlSchoolOfLegereteForTheHorse/photos/a.124185587754103.22385.122183271287668/471504923022166/?type=3&theater[/QUOTE]

Yes, Isla is based in rural B.C. There were however several Americans in that program with her, who are instructing in the method. If they haven’t officially tested and graduated, they can’t advertise as “P Karl certified,” but would effectively be teaching the methods. I think they are all based in the PNW, but some have been travelling to do clinics around the US.

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There were however several Americans in that program with her, who are instructing in the method. If they haven’t officially tested and graduated, they can’t advertise as “P Karl certified,” but would effectively be teaching the methods.
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Like you stated, according to the - Légèreté Series rules, students of the course who are not licensed are not allowed to give lessons. But I’m sure there are some out there who do in their “own” right.

There is Jane Judson who is Certified in the method and is in the US,
http://pkinpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jane-Judson-Classical-Dressage-Clinic-November-14-16-2014.pdf

There are some Euro students ie Melanie Boluman, and others who come over to give Open courses with much success.

The licensing criteria are stringent. Many do not graduate and need to continue on (imagine paying that much $$ and not graduating?) A few from the British Columbia school did not graduate. But Karl and Ravoux do not give diplomas to students who do not merit.

[QUOTE=belgianWBLuver;8595025]
Like you stated, according to the - Légèreté Series rules, students of the course who are not licensed are not allowed to give lessons. But I’m sure there are some out there who do in their “own” right.

There is Jane Judson who is Certified in the method and is in the US,
http://pkinpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jane-Judson-Classical-Dressage-Clinic-November-14-16-2014.pdf

There are some Euro students ie Melanie Boluman, and others who come over to give Open courses with much success.

The licensing criteria are stringent. Many do not graduate and need to continue on (imagine paying that much $$ and not graduating?) A few from the British Columbia school did not graduate. But Karl and Ravoux do not give diplomas to students who do not merit.[/QUOTE]

The student teachers enrolled in the program are almost always practicing instructors. already certified/insured according to the rules in their country of residence, before they are accepted: at least that was true for the first cohort in Canada. All of them continued teaching while they were enrolled in the program, passing on techniques to their students. They are certainly allowed to teach. They were also, from what I could see, allowed to advertise that they were students in the P. Karl program. They were not allowed to advertise that they were certified or graduates or official instructors of the method before graduation.

The student teachers are in fact expected to teach, since one component of the testing is to present a student of their own that they have mentored over the three years while they were in the program themselves.

Jane Judson’s website states that she is enrolled in Advanced Training and taking her exam requirements towards becoming a Certified instructor. Either the website is not updated, or she hasn’t in fact finished her testing yet.

Jane is an accomplished rider, coach, and clinician. I don’t think that a delay in her testing is a reflection on her ability at all.

I understand this delay in graduation is quite common in the program; people can take a year or two to finish the multi-part testing requirements after they complete the three year program. Lots of factors can delay this, such as issues with the horse the person planned to test on, or with the student/horse combo they plan to present. It’s like doing graduate school :slight_smile: being late with your PhD thesis doesn’t mean it isn’t any good, sometimes the opposite.

[QUOTE=Scribbler;8595186]
The student teachers enrolled in the program are almost always practicing instructors. already certified/insured according to the rules in their country of residence, before they are accepted: at least that was true for the first cohort in Canada. All of them continued teaching while they were enrolled in the program, passing on techniques to their students. They are certainly allowed to teach. They were also, from what I could see, allowed to advertise that they were students in the P. Karl program. They were not allowed to advertise that they were certified or graduates or official instructors of the method before graduation.

The student teachers are in fact expected to teach, since one component of the testing is to present a student of their own that they have mentored over the three years while they were in the program themselves.

Jane Judson’s website states that she is enrolled in Advanced Training and taking her exam requirements towards becoming a Certified instructor. Either the website is not updated, or she hasn’t in fact finished her testing yet.

Jane is an accomplished rider, coach, and clinician. I don’t think that a delay in her testing is a reflection on her ability at all.

I understand this delay in graduation is quite common in the program; people can take a year or two to finish the multi-part testing requirements after they complete the three year program. Lots of factors can delay this, such as issues with the horse the person planned to test on, or with the student/horse combo they plan to present. It’s like doing graduate school :slight_smile: being late with your PhD thesis doesn’t mean it isn’t any good, sometimes the opposite.[/QUOTE]

Thank you so much for clarifying these points Scribbler :slight_smile:

Very nice Youtube published vid of Becky Holden’s (British Certified level 1) ridden exam held in May 2014 during the Philippe Karl’s school of Légèreté in the UK. She would go on to pass 2 more exams to receive her certification.
(Remember, these are not Charlotte D’s., Edward Gal’s or I. Klimke’s., these are ordinary dressage instructors mastering the program on ordinary horses, not elite, Olympic level WB’s).
Enjoy!!

Summary: the flexions at 1:37
In-hand work at 1:57
Ridden work at 2:42 (rider holds her double reins in the fillis style)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXIIo46b2nU&feature=player_embedded