It’s not that I don’t trust you, it’s that I don’t trust anybody. Simple. Practice saying and doing it with any body or entity you give money to in return for a service.
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This. I hate doing things in person or over the phone without a written summary afterwards. I often go back in texts to remind myself what we agreed to, and in this industry where it seems EVERYONE does something a little bit different, writing down exactly how you do things means no one assumes what the process is and is surprised later.
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OMG - seriously? No. Just no. There are lots of ways folks can be acquainted with other horse folk that do not involve (g)you. I do not owe (g)you a commision on a horse I find without (g)your actual involvement. (G)You may decline to accept this new horse, in which case I will take my business elsewhere.
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That kind of depends on the buyers background and experience selecting suitable horses for their specific needs and expectations though. Particularly dealing out of their local area/state/country with professional dealer/sellers in an industry not known for….ahhhh…truth in advertising. Heck, many operate without even written contracts as discussed above.
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The way this is written totally misread the quoted paragraph.
“I do not owe (g)you a commision on a horse …” The commission discussed was to the trainer who maintains a program, and possibly a facility as well. Not to the individual who is not a trainer. The entire post outlines the scenario a bit more.
Just noting that, otherwise it doesn’t really matter. Other people seem to have understood it.
I don’t believe I misread. I would not pay a commission to a trainer in whose program I rode who was not directly involved in the purchase of a horse I bought. The idea that I “would not be in contact” with the right people but for involvement with the trainer is likely BS.
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You know, many times advice offered is aimed at the general readership likely to be looking for advice and not directed specifically at anybody. Don’t take it personally, many readers may lack your experience based network.
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All the more reason we should educate the general, less experienced, readership about sketchy policies so they can choose what trainer to work with with their eyes wide open.
There is absolutely benefit to working with a trainer throughout the whole process for the less experienced buyer, and in that instance where the trainer is actively helping you search and try the horses, you should pay a commission. However, saying that you should pay a commission because you happen to have your horse with BNT Mary and that means that Sally Smith also trains there so you can buy her step down horses is nonsense.
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That is why we have contracts. So everyone knows up front what they are agreeing to.
If someone disagrees with something in the contract, they don’t have to a sign on. And/or they can ask for a change. They can sign a version that is more specific to their case.
Everyone will be clear about the expectations, from the beginning.
Many potential conflicts can be avoided, or quickly resolved by referring to the contract.
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Yes, we should, but we (g) often don’t.
