Leasing a facility DC region

[Cheltenham]

I’ve been out in a rural state doing everything myself for about 10 years. Seeking to get back to civilization!

Anybody have experience leasing a house + barn+ some perks like ring? I know what it takes to run a place…no illusions…and I’m not up for a huge facility. Wondering what people think prospects are for a smaller place, finding another couple people like myself —experienced, like the control of care you get doing it yourself…like to share with some others so you get a day off now and then!

[IPEsq]

Check Virginia equestrians website under the rent/lease section. Not sure if there are as many listings in the Equiry, but that would get you on the MD side.

[luvmyhackney]

Virginia Equestrian is your best bet or Facebook groups, Virginia Equestrian is a busy one.

[Palm_Beach]

The DC area is very pricey, and traffic is awful. If you can go out a ways, it’s not so horrible.

[AKB]

If you want to lease a historic house in the middle of an equestrian park in Great Falls, VA, look at the resident curator program for Turner Farm. There is room for a few horses there. The County will offer greatly decreased rent in exchange for someone fixing up the house. The house is in poor condition now, but perhaps the County could be persuaded to fix some important parts of it and then rent it to a tenant.

[ShotenStar]

There are several places in Maryland (Howard and Montgomery Counties) that I know of that seem to be leased out regularly. Some have had the same tenants for years, others seem to change hands fairly often. I rarely seem them advertised for lease, so I’m guessing word-of-mouth gets the job done. You might check with the folks at The Equeiry to see what they might know.

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[gumtree]

Service providers get around and talk to each other. Vets, farriers, feed suppliers. They seem to know everybody’s “business”, truth or fiction and what may or may not be going on in the “neighborhood”.

Might be worth doing a search for the above who service the ares you are looking in. Call or drop them an email explaining what you are looking for.

Good chance they maybe able to help you out and possibly get your business also.

Around my neck of the woods depending on the facility the “rent,lease” is priced by the stall in “blocks” and or the whole barn. Prices can range from $100 per stall for a very basic set up. To $300++ with an indoor and outdoor ring.

I am thinking about leasing out a block of stalls and if I do they will be priced at $250 each. A very large property located in a very desirable area. Lots of jumps ,outside courses and lots of “ride-ability” but no indoor. IMO and others an excellent property to train Eventers. The lease would include basic maintenance and mowing.

[Cheltenham]

[QUOTE=gumtree;8906115]
Service providers get around and talk to each other. Vets, farriers, feed suppliers. They seem to know everybody’s “business”, truth or fiction and what may or may not be going on in the “neighborhood”.

Might be worth doing a search for the above who service the ares you are looking in. Call or drop them an email explaining what you are looking for.

Good chance they maybe able to help you out and possibly get your business also.

Around my neck of the woods depending on the facility the “rent,lease” is priced by the stall in “blocks” and or the whole barn. Prices can range from $100 per stall for a very basic set up. To $300++ with an indoor and outdoor ring.

I am thinking about leasing out a block of stalls and if I do they will be priced at $250 each. A very large property located in a very desirable area. Lots of jumps ,outside courses and lots of “ride-ability” but no indoor. IMO and others an excellent property to train Eventers. The lease would include basic maintenance and mowing.[/QUOTE]

Yes that does sound attractive. Curious-- what’s your plan? Are you bringing client horses? Teaching out of there? Just your own? Will you do your own care or hire help to feed and muck?

Just curious how that all breaks down. I can do all my own work–but my back complains loudly these days when I handle a lot of hay/stacking. I really kinda hate doing lawn care/landscaping and the time it eats up. And I’d like to be able to take off for weekend, clinic, show etc.

I like ride ability too— I’d much rather have excellent turnout, hacking, nice outdoor area…flat enough to train on—that suits me. I don’t need a indoor. I have a truck and trailer can haul to indoor arena as/if needed.
What about equipment like tractors? How does that usually go? Bring your own?

Also— segue question. What happens when you need to put a horse down? I know ordinances etc. some places require rendering…I’ve always been somwhere you just paid somebody cash come w a backhoe bury them , see no evil hear no evil.

BTW— other commenter— I say DC region—I maybe should have said commutable distance. I am familiar with traffic nightmare. I have work from home so, I can be flexible. But, I like the options being near a hub like DC offers work wise, and it’s horsey.

[Cheltenham]

[QUOTE=AKB;8905936]
If you want to lease a historic house in the middle of an equestrian park in Great Falls, VA, look at the resident curator program for Turner Farm. There is room for a few horses there. The County will offer greatly decreased rent in exchange for someone fixing up the house. The house is in poor condition now, but perhaps the County could be persuaded to fix some important parts of it and then rent it to a tenant.[/QUOTE]

great tip, I’ll check that out.

[Cheltenham]

[QUOTE=luvmyhackney;8905831]
Virginia Equestrian is your best bet or Facebook groups, Virginia Equestrian is a busy one.[/QUOTE]

I’m familiar with the website—I’m not familiar with FB pages. So you mean, look up like MD and VA horsey FB pages?

[IPEsq]

[QUOTE=Cheltenham;8906521]
Yes that does sound attractive. Curious-- what’s your plan? Are you bringing client horses? Teaching out of there? Just your own? Will you do your own care or hire help to feed and muck?

Just curious how that all breaks down. I can do all my own work–but my back complains loudly these days when I handle a lot of hay/stacking. I really kinda hate doing lawn care/landscaping and the time it eats up. And I’d like to be able to take off for weekend, clinic, show etc.

I like ride ability too— I’d much rather have excellent turnout, hacking, nice outdoor area…flat enough to train on—that suits me. I don’t need a indoor. I have a truck and trailer can haul to indoor arena as/if needed.
What about equipment like tractors? How does that usually go? Bring your own?

Also— segue question. What happens when you need to put a horse down? I know ordinances etc. some places require rendering…I’ve always been somwhere you just paid somebody cash come w a backhoe bury them , see no evil hear no evil.

BTW— other commenter— I say DC region—I maybe should have said commutable distance. I am familiar with traffic nightmare. I have work from home so, I can be flexible. But, I like the options being near a hub like DC offers work wise, and it’s horsey.[/QUOTE]

Just to clarify, gumtree owns the farm and is considering leasing out some dry stalls to someone, not the other way around.

[gumtree]

[QUOTE=IPEsq;8906548]
Just to clarify, gumtree owns the farm and is considering leasing out some dry stalls to someone, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I didn’t quite understand the OPs question. But after re-reading my comments I can see whre the confusion came from.

[gumtree]

Op, I missed on wanting a house also. So I will add try calling around to real-estate agents. People who own higher end properties, unique properties generally don’t want to do with a lot of phone calls and vetting perspective renters.

I know several people that rented horse farms house included. Most came through real-estate agents and a couple by word of mouth. If I was going to rent my entire farm I would contact a real-estate and pay the “convenience fee”.

If I did it on my own I would tell my vets and farrier and list in the mid-Atlantic horse publications and COTH.

A property like mine would probubly rent for $6-8,000 per month. It is a very nice facility but not “Wellington”.

Generally equipment is not included any that would be available would be extra with damage deposit.

[AKB]

OP, if you decide you are interested in Turner Farm, you may want to talk with the Great Falls Citizens Association before you submit an application. A lot of people would like a horse person in the house, and would advocate with the park authority to try to make it work.

[Cheltenham]

[QUOTE=AKB;8906789]
OP, if you decide you are interested in Turner Farm, you may want to talk with the Great Falls Citizens Association before you submit an application. A lot of people would like a horse person in the house, and would advocate with the park authority to try to make it work.[/QUOTE]

do you contact information? I did look up the website for Turner Farm and didn’t see anything for the house . I have seen this type of thing in the past for historic properties, so, kinda know what you are getting at in terms of the arrangements.

[Cheltenham]

[QUOTE=gumtree;8906780]
Op, I missed on wanting a house also. So I will add try calling around to real-estate agents. People who own higher end properties, unique properties generally don’t want to do with a lot of phone calls and vetting perspective renters.

I know several people that rented horse farms house included. Most came through real-estate agents and a couple by word of mouth. If I was going to rent my entire farm I would contact a real-estate and pay the “convenience fee”.

If I did it on my own I would tell my vets and farrier and list in the mid-Atlantic horse publications and COTH.

A property like mine would probubly rent for $6-8,000 per month. It is a very nice facility but not “Wellington”.

Generally equipment is not included any that would be available would be extra with damage deposit.[/QUOTE]

Yeah sorry for confusion–it wasn’t until after I did realize you ment renting a block of stall from you not that you were on the hunt for that.

The info is very helpful to me either way.

I agree-- house + facility likely to go thru a agent.

I’m on fact finding mission to get a better picture of how to proceed, what my best options are.

Question-- when people do rent out a block of stalls, how are they handling the mundane details of stall cleaning, manure management, pasture and paddock cleaning/maintenance, dragging, manure pile etc. ? Do they bring their own tractor? Manure pile removal etc?. Wheel barrows and slave labor only get you so far

How are details like fence repairs, loose boards, something in a stall or part of the barn/stalls needs repair?

[FrittSkritt]

I’m in a similar sort of situation, although I didn’t end up here by seeking out a place to lease! Started off as a boarder, and the property owner kind of wanted out of the boarding business but didn’t want an empty barn. Another boarder had been doing most of the management duties already (finding boarders, ordering feed/hay/etc.), so it was a seamless transition. That boarder ended up retiring her horse and moving her to Texas another year later, so I took over the management job (albeit reluctantly, but I knew if I didn’t, no one else would).

The cost to lease the facility is CHEAP (six stall barn), but we’re also expected to keep up the property. Some things I can do myself – fixing fence boards and the like – but other times I’ve had to call in help, like when the culvert got clogged up and flooded one of the paddocks. :dead: I also have someone come to haul away our manure for a fee.

It’s not easy at all – I have a fulltime job and live 20+ miles away, so doing feeding/mucking is not feasible for me – so we hire workers (local horse community!) come in to do the basic chores. I end up dragging the ring as I seem to be the only one using it at the moment. :winkgrin: We had a young man who was doing the PM chores for us that would also do the more heavy lifting/handyman stuff, but he didn’t love the commute and I couldn’t pay him the wages he wanted due to a couple of boarders (and thus income) leaving.

All of the necessities are there – tractor, wheelbarrows, muck forks, etc. – some stuff is “donated” by previous boarders and some stuff (like the tractor) is owned by the property owner.

I’m not going to lie, I’m quite burned out and would love for someone to take over my job, but the other boarders are working professionals like me. (FWIW the property owner does have a small apartment in her house, but I already own my condo as I live and work near D.C.).

[Cheltenham]

[QUOTE=FrittSkritt;8910779]
I’m in a similar sort of situation, although I didn’t end up here by seeking out a place to lease! Started off as a boarder, and the property owner kind of wanted out of the boarding business but didn’t want an empty barn. Another boarder had been doing most of the management duties already (finding boarders, ordering feed/hay/etc.), so it was a seamless transition. That boarder ended up retiring her horse and moving her to Texas another year later, so I took over the management job (albeit reluctantly, but I knew if I didn’t, no one else would).

The cost to lease the facility is CHEAP (six stall barn), but we’re also expected to keep up the property. Some things I can do myself – fixing fence boards and the like – but other times I’ve had to call in help, like when the culvert got clogged up and flooded one of the paddocks. :dead: I also have someone come to haul away our manure for a fee.

It’s not easy at all – I have a fulltime job and live 20+ miles away, so doing feeding/mucking is not feasible for me – so we hire workers (local horse community!) come in to do the basic chores. I end up dragging the ring as I seem to be the only one using it at the moment. :winkgrin: We had a young man who was doing the PM chores for us that would also do the more heavy lifting/handyman stuff, but he didn’t love the commute and I couldn’t pay him the wages he wanted due to a couple of boarders (and thus income) leaving.

All of the necessities are there – tractor, wheelbarrows, muck forks, etc. – some stuff is “donated” by previous boarders and some stuff (like the tractor) is owned by the property owner.

I’m not going to lie, I’m quite burned out and would love for someone to take over my job, but the other boarders are working professionals like me. (FWIW the property owner does have a small apartment in her house, but I already own my condo as I live and work near D.C.).[/QUOTE]

Oh wow-- Yes, I’d like to talk more. I’d be interested in the apartment too. I’ll send you a PM. I know where you are coming from, it wears you down doing it all. I can’t believe you’ve held up doing the drive, your job, and the barn! That’s a lot!