Under what circumstances do you use liniment and standing wraps? Or at what times do you only use one or the other?
Thank you!
Under what circumstances do you use liniment and standing wraps? Or at what times do you only use one or the other?
Thank you!
I don’t use linement under wraps, it can blister. Learned that the hard way.
Usually only use linement diluted as a brace and witch hazel or rubbing alcohol do about the same thing cheaper. Use wraps for surface protection when stalled or in the trailer with no substances underneath the wrap.
I use liniment under standing wraps after schooling over jumps or after a show day. Bigeloil liniment gel is my favorite, never had it blister under wraps.
Thanks to you both! In my younger years when I was teen we always did liniment under standing wraps and I am seeing that less now that I am back to riding, I was curious what others do.
Findeight, sorry to hear you had a blistering issue, that sounds awful
Happened twice, two different horses, but both had white legs with pink skin. Figured even if one had dark legs, no need to use it anyway, probably minimal effect and more tradition then help.
I will use one or the other or both in certain circumstances. After a hard jump school or a light show day, I will either use Sore No More and regular no bows (always let the sore no more dry before applying wraps!) or naked legs and back on track no bows. Towards the end of a show, or if the footing was tough, I’ll poultice and use regular no bows.
I also have the Back On Track QuickWraps that I will use after a jump school sometimes overnight if he worked hard, but not hard enough to need wraps.
I have always wondered about the use of both.
The counter irritant action of the liniment is designed to increase blood flow to the applied area, and the pressure from the wraps is to limit excess blood flow to prevent swelling. It just seems like you are working against yourself. Cold hosing and wraps always struck me as a more effective method of dealing with stressed out legs.
You should use a counter-irritant the same way you do heat, several days after the initial trauma, to increase blood flow and promote healing. The first few days after the initial trauma the body doesn’t need encouragement to send blood to the effected area, it needs to not over react and cause detrimental swelling.
While I don’t like to use both, for the reasons Twisting stated, I will only use the Gelotion from Sore-No-More. I have never had any issues with it blistering under wraps, and use it on myself often under my back on track back brace.
Pony Club mantra - never rub and wrap.
I have been putting Sore No More and then wrapping for about four years now. I haven’t had any issues and do have horses with sensitive skin. I just checked their website and they state it is safe under wraps:
A: No, Sore No-More Classic Liniment can be used in the same applications as other Sore No-More Liniments; pre and post workout under riding equipment, wraps and blankets, helping supple tight muscles, and to aid in pain relief of sore muscles or arthritic conditions. It is also great as a bath brace post workout and may also be used with a warm towel after application of liniment to get the same effect as a bath brace.
Checked the Absorbine site and they state “don’t rub and wrap:”
At the first signs of heat and swelling from a minor strain, check with your veterinarian and secure your horse in a stall. As soon as possible, apply a cold pack or run a cold water hose over the hot area for 20 minutes, then remove it. Next, gently apply Absorbine Veterinary Liniment by smoothing it onto the area and wrap the leg in a standing wrap. (Note: we say “if you rub, don’t wrap” because rubbing increases the heat too much to be under a wrap.)
I never use liniment, although we used to all the time 20 years ago. I think it makes the humans feel better and does nothing for the horses
Don’t apply absorbine gel and wrap, whether you rub or not. Made that mistake this summer and my not-very-sensitive horse lost all the hair on his legs. Ignore the packaging!
I bought some sore no more but haven’t put it under wraps yet and doubt I will. I have been using it on a sponge for all-over post ride rinses.
Chiming back in that my liniment and wrapping was 10+ years ago and now I’d probably just ice and hand walk or turn out instead. No wraps.
I believe Back On Track and Sore No More partner together and advertise you can use their liniment under those wraps.
I will use poltice and wrap. Don’t use liniment and wrap. I have used Sore no More on a sore back, hock or stiffle but not wrap.
I agree, cold hosing (or ice) then standing wrap.
I use wraps at shows, as my mare stocks up (she’s used to being out 24-7). I occasionally use mineral ice under the wraps, generally only at the end of a long hard multi-day show.
I use sore no more by itself, or I’ll spritz the legs with rubbing alcohol and wrap. I’m too paranoid to use liniment under wraps.
My horse stocks up being in a stall, so he gets wrapped in the evenings when we’re showing. I usually just use the sore no more on his back, or after a show once we get back home I’ll put it on his legs for a day or two.
I never use liniment anymore. It’s expensive it seems counterproductive to use right after a workout.
I throw ice boots on after I jump and then mine are out 24/7 so that they can promote blood flow on their own by walking around. At a show I’ll poultice under standing wraps.
I’d buy some back on tracks if I wanted something to promote blood flow in other situations.
I use liniment with no wraps or wrap without liniment. However, mostly when I wrap it is not as much for support as for protection. Unless I am using a pressure wrap for some reason, then I wouldn’t have a liniment persay, unless I am using a sweat.
Be careful with those sensitive types and Sore No More. My massage therapist used it on my grey/white pinto’s back during the winter so he was blanketed. He didn’t blister but he got scurf all under the saddle from it. He very sensitive to rubs and stuff though. I would not dream of using Sore No More or any type of liniment under a wrap on him.