If you have links for anything, for those of us who can’t watch, can we put them all in one spot so we don’t have to go searching? I know I am interested in everything.
Here’s some I found of random dressage:
Here’s some video I found.
Hans Peter Minderhoud & Glock’s Johnson TN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNb2PlG0x5w
ADELPRAG ANDERS 451 & Chere BURGER, First Frysian Horse at WEG 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdSJImGtts
Diederik van Silfhout en Arlando - Grand Prix Special WEG 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsufb2L2N3s
Isabel WErth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUkqPHj-HI
Edward Gal with Glock’s Voice - WEG 2014 Dressage Grand Prix Special
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMp5mhWHukE
WEG 2014 Morgan Barbançon & Painted Black - GP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvASGLGlM1A
WEG 2014 Laura Graves & Verdades - GPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWV0MI5SfX8
WEG 2014 Anna ?ukasik POL Stella Pack Ganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooRMkwfPbI8
Tinne Vilhelmson - GP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ecvuAoMzk
Adrienne Lyle & Wizard - GPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IGXPN9ZRlk
Grand Prix Special ~ Mary Hanna - Sancette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=760HbpLEGkw
Adelinde Cornelissen with Parzival - WEG 2014 Team Championship Dressage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2F43BERFBc
Helen Langehanenberg with Damon Hill - WEG 2014 Grand Prix Special
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84xYHNWKZP4
Pedro Almeida - Samba - WEG - França - Normadie - 25/8/2014 Dressage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K6yZDWI_MQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvvC484u2y4
William Fox Pitt XC ride see also all some other rides on the right hand of the Station 3 feed including reining
Individual Reining (USA sweep!! :D)
Gold: Shawn Flarida & Spooks Gotta Whiz
Silver: Andrea Fappani & Custom Cash Advance
Bronze: Mandy McCutcheon & Yellow Jersey
Thanks, Swedish. Interesting to see. (Yours, too Hoopoe.)
It would be fascinating to see how other countries ride reining. I’m just trying to digest the best reiners in the world don’t do clean changes, they have to lean WAY to gallop, lean left and right and push the horse over with big spurs and such to get a lead or bend. And that silver horse–that mane. Ugh.
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Thanks, Swedish. Interesting to see. (Yours, too Hoopoe.)
It would be fascinating to see how other countries ride reining. I’m just trying to digest the best reiners in the world don’t do clean changes, they have to lean WAY to gallop, lean left and right and push the horse over with big spurs and such to get a lead or bend. And that silver horse–that mane. Ugh.[/QUOTE]
yeah, what a shame they are all terrible riders. (insert sarcasm icon here)
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yeah, what a shame they are all terrible riders. (insert sarcasm icon here)[/QUOTE]
Well, you tell me, expert reiner, is that the best riding that can be done? Do these riders really have to lean forward and put the rein that far up the neck to get a gallop? Do they have to shift the quarters sideways to get a canter? A training level dressage rider would be nailed for doing that. Or is it just OK because everyone does it? Thus I asked about the other country’s riders. Do they ALL ride the same way? BY the way, I’ve done some reining, and didn’t need to ride like that.
It’s not dressage. Good night.
I don’t want to start trouble, but does this horse not look sound to anyone else? He is jogging at the end of the video (~4:36) and looks sore and NQR to me, and I’m accustomed to watching reining horses. Maybe just an awkward moment. Just curious if anyone else sees it.
So, you’re saying reiners can’t ride as well as dressage riders, or that they’re just too cool for school and whatever they do is OK, or what? Is that a typical reiner attitude? We’re great so everyone else doesn’t matter?
And, by the way, IF you’ve actually reined, dressage and reining are MUCH more closely related than dressage and jumping or other English sports.
I’m sure Many, Shawn, Andrea, Tom, Troy and Jordan are just dying to have you come out and show them how its done.
Dressage is the only sport where you DON’T lean forward for a gallop (or extended canter.) Racing, eventing, etc., all do. In reining there is also the drama aspect of it, but the very forward lean is a cue to the horse to go hell bent for leather.
Most reiners could easily learn to ride dressage very well if they wished, but they ride a different discipline. I believe the best reiners (which may or may not be the ones who are winning, same as dressage riders) use classical dressage basics, though.
Norcal–thanks for showing me you can’t answer, either.
netg–That’s my thinking. It’s more about the drama. From my experience reining, it REALLY taught me to sit in the saddle and use my weight and seat, which is why I don’t get going for the drama instead of the finesse. And, I agree, I think reining and dressage are a lot alike. A good reiner would do well in dressage. Anky actually qualified for the Dutch WEG reining team last time I think. Same basics, whereas a crossover to other horse sports would be a lot harder.
how many times have we seen reiners and dressage riders switch horses at shows… I have never seen other disciplines do it… It is usually quite interesting to see how well the riders take to the other discipline… there are similarities.
Ok I know the US cleaned up, but I 'd like to see the rest of the competition. Where did the Canadian finish? and the German who took the lead at one point. I had to leave and could not watch the whole thing. Don’t really want to watch the replay tonight.
Thanks
I know. Thus I’m not getting a supposed reiner saying it’s not dressage as an answer.
I’m with you on seeing what the rest of the world looks like. I’m sure Canada is similar, but it would be really interesting to see the European countries as they are so relatively new to it.
At least the French reiner is not carrying an extra 40lbs beer gut…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCJOCNDvhc
Interesting. Thanks. I like the more natural head carriage on this horse.
This got me thinking about what reining and dressage could learn from each other. Reiners could take the invisible aides/subtle riding thing, but I kind of like all of the hooting and hollering. If it was encouraged to do that in dressage, it could be a lot more fun. And I like the standing between movements and chilling. That would be good for dressage.
You know, medal-winning reiner Mandy McCutcheon was quite a brilliant H/J rider as a junior and an amateur… Like, indoors championship-winning, Young Riders-level, and her mother is who we have to thank for the Pre-Green Incentive, so I’d say, yes, she can gallop without leaning forward. It’s a different sport than dressage or eventing – why not enjoy it as such instead of criticizing?
OH, OK, asking questions is a bad thing? People’s reactions are saying a lot more about them than me. I’m supposed all people in here are riders of some sort, and most competitors, thus I do NOT get the “must always see as wonderful” attitude and how dare you “criticize.” All of the best riders I know are very critical of everything and analyze everything–THAT is how you, and the sport, improves.
Fascinating people think there is no room for improvement. 20 years ago the top dressage riders all had major flaws in their tests. Now, not so much. The riding has improved a lot. I wonder if reining will change in 20 years. Maybe not if people think it’s perfect as is.
Fascinating.
And, of the ones I watched, it seemed Mandy had the most finesse in her riding. Do you think she was able to bring over what she knew from H/J and improve reining?
I appreciate the links to the reiners! I ride dressage, and let me tell you…they lay down a perfect circle at high speed. They are not riding extended canters, they are galloping. Yes, the two sports are similar, but at the same time they are incredibly different. Here’s the deal though with what I have seen in reining, we are the country the others are wanting to copy. They export our horses, and I have no doubt they would train with any of the top three given a chance. I don’t agree with all of the methods used to take a horse to that level, but since I have never trained a finished Reiner…I have no business criticizing what they do. It’s amazing to watch though. I also assume the sport has improved in the last twenty years, I have no doubt they are breeding better horses for the sport…the same way the dressage horses have improved in movement and conformation.
