Live Stream of Wellington Young Rider Clinic January 4-7

[Knights_Mom]

Likewise.

[Angela_Freda]

@MHM

If one judge was actually scribing for the other, that sounds to me like maybe they were dressage judges. That is not generally a thing that happens with hunter or jumper judges.

So maybe not within the loop who would have heard about this particular clinic.

Especially if they were busy talking about the Robert Dover clinic instead.

right but then they should not really comment
I would be shocked if someone would not know about it but then say anything about it honestly.
That’s very unprofessional.

[MHM]

@Angela_Freda

right but then they should not really coment

That hasn’t stopped a lot of other people who don’t really know much about the situation. Or didn’t watch the clinic.

[Angela_Freda]

true

[Knights_Mom]

Many here will be in for a big surprise.

[MHM]

For anyone who had questions about the correct way to adjust your stirrup length, Anne Kursinski shared this demonstration video again the other day.

Anne Kursinski Riding and Jumping Mentor

[Lost_Shoe]

There is a reason why no one who participated or watched the entire clinic complained about it. The editor of the 2.5 minute video had to work hard to come up with 2.5 minutes worth of out of context content for the hit job. In other words, only 2.5 minutes out of 90 minutes were useful or potentially useful to the person wanting to make the instructor look as bad as possible. Unfortunately the people who have not seen the entire 90 minutes are presuming that the 2.5 minutes are just a taste of the full clinic, and do not realize that the lesson as a whole was a positive, productive session for the horses and riders.

What I have not seen talked about yet is the collateral damage that the 2.5 minute video is doing to the clinic participants who are professionals and future professionals. In an effort to make Katie look as bad as possible, the content creator made the participants look as bad as possible in their personally-motivated quest to get Katie canceled. I would be so mortified if someone stringed together all of my mistakes made during clinic in effort to make the clinician look as bad and then shared it all over social media. If that is not internet bullying, I don’t know what is. In the responses to the 2.5 minute video by people who have not watched the entire lesson, a few posters upthread and several of you-tube response videos are concluding that the participants were underprepared and not up to caliber, and some people have even suggested on you tube that the participants whose mistakes were highlighted in the video should have been excused from the clinic altogether! What the people making such comments would see if they watched the entire lesson is that each and every participant was competent and had a successful day, even though they made a mistake here and there. Mistakes are part of the learning process! What the 90 minutes clearly demonstrates is that the participants processed and incorporated the Katie’s feedback and showed improvement during the course of the lesson! You can see each horse and rider improving and that they competently handled each of the exercises. No one was in over their head; no one deserved to be dismissed. The hit job video highlighting their mistakes shows abject callousness (and likely jealousy also) on the part of the creator of the video towards the participants. The video was cruel towards the students. I am ready to armchair diagnose that individual with antisocial personality disorder.

I have been shocked to witness some clinicians just standing there exclaiming “Good!” “Excellent!” “Perfect!” after every jump when the jump was anything but. Mollycoddling does not actually help the student or horse. In contrast, Katie’s instructions and guidance were effective in helping the students and horses improve and grow their partnership. I especially admired how she impressed upon the students the need for an adequate release over fences.

[Knights_Mom]

Blah blah blah “If that were me, I’d flip the horse over backwards”.

The rest of the clinic doesn’t matter

[libgrrl]

Somewhat ironic from a number of years ago
Albert Voorn agrees with Katie Prudent - Hunter/Jumper - Chronicle Forums (chronofhorse.com)

[thoroughbred22]

@Lost_Shoe

only 2.5 minutes out of 90 minutes were useful

Which minutes will be burned into the brains of the riders and horses after this clinic?

My guesses:

(1) The ones where the riders were repeatedly insulted as unintelligent, ungainly, scaredy-cats, etc; and
(2) The ones where the horses were being asked badly and answering clumsily, desperately, and the riders were (see (1) above).

[Knights_Mom]

@libgrrl

Somewhat ironic from a number of years ago
Albert Voorn agrees with Katie Prudent - Hunter/Jumper - Chronicle Forums (chronofhorse.com)

Lots of people agree on one thing then disagree on another.

I believe if people were to ask other horsepeople if it was bad (what she said) that many would agree with me. I see it all over.

[libgrrl]

Of course! There are lots of horse people out there with strong opinions. Shoot, just look at the 800+ comments on the Chronicle’s Facebook page! This doesn’t surprise me at all. Doesn’t mean that I agree that this is worth a tarring and feathering either. But what do I know…

[Lost_Shoe]

Watch the 90 minutes and judge for yourself.

[MsM]

It has become a difficult problem for USEF. On one hand, they dont want the “problematic” portions of the video to be more widely circulated. OTOH, by making it unavailable in context, even the members cannot see the whole session and judge for themselves. And those who are not competing members cannot see the sessions at all. Which leaves only the edited portions widely available.

I am only able to see the edited video. I thought, as presented, it showed really poor teaching technique. (which could have been from frustration as some have said there was much more before the chosen snippets, but I cant know)

It also struck me that if the riders were ill-prepared and couldnt tack up their own horses or shorten their leathers, the fault wasnt so much with them and “kids these days” as much as the trainers they had been working with.

[MHM]

@MsM

It also struck me that if the riders… couldnt tack up their own horses

The mom/trainer of one of the participants in the clinic said in a Facebook post that claim was completely untrue.

[libgrrl]

I just checked the USEF site. Gymnastics Group II is available, just not Group I at the moment.

[MHM]

If you just click play, it works. I’m not sure what the caption says, or why it’s in German for some reason.

[Moonboots]

@MsM

And those who are not competing members cannot see the sessions at all. Which leaves only the edited portions widely available.

You can sign up for a free USEF fan membership, which allows you to link that account to CMH and watch there. I was able to watch the gymnastics session a week or so ago in the archives. Not sure if it is still available - I would double check but the TV is in use and I don’t want to interrupt.

Edit: Just checked and I can still access it when using the CMH app on the Firestick. And now I have the app on both TVs haha

[HipNo34]

Like @MHM, it was working for me.
I’ve seen the red message in both German and English (same browser, same computer shrug) … in English, it says something to the effect of the video being unavailable because there’s a problem and they’re fixing it.

I have been (probably shrilly) taking every opportunity, including posting on my social accounts with settings on public, that the video works, please press ‘play!’ And if you need to, sign up for the CMH 30-day trial (lesser of the evils, friends) and press ‘play.’ Because I think it’s so important people who can watch the whole thing, do so before piling on. And that the impression that they’re not available is wildly unhelpful.

Someone (not me) was posting bootlegs on another platform. I don’t know if they’re still there or not, and after all my screeching, I’m certainly not advocating for violating TOS and IP whatnots but… just saying.

[MHM]

@Moonboots

Not sure if it is still available

It’s available right this minute for me after the usual runaround to get that site to work.