Looking for Chrome Killer Stallions

Westporte and Crown Affair have killed almost all the white in my good friends breeding program. But both throw very nice, ammy friendly off spring as well.

I third Figaro B! He definitely stamps his babies and all that I’ve seen are a beautiful, particular, shade of bay with very little, if any, white. Plus, they tend to be huge with wonderful hunter movement.
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I’m expecting a Crown Affair foal in a little over a month. I wanted a ammy friendly hunter and didn’t care one way or the other about chrome. Mare is a Rio Grande, so there is some chrome in her genes. I’ll keep you posted! :smiley:

LearningBear,

It’s also to do with horsey myths. As in these old rhymes:
“One white foot buy him
Two white feet try him
Three white feet look well about him
Four white feet do well with out him.”

“Four white feet and a white nose,
Strip off his hide and feed him to the crows.”

because people used to think white feet (and pink hooves) were weaker than black.

In her book about Iceland and Icelandic Horses, Nancy Marie writes that the title of her book is an old Icelandic saying, I think. “A Good Horse Has No Color.” Can’t find the quote in the book right now though.

Crown Affair, the three Rubinstein I sons: Rosenthal (who is homozygous black), Rubignon and Rubinus, maybe Just the Best? It seems most of his have little white. Ragtime is hit or miss, I had a fairly plain one out of a mare with white on all four feet.

I would not consider Cartier R a white killer. I bred a mare to him with a star and very little white on one foot. My mare had two foals prior to her Cartier foal and both had almost no white. Her Cartier foal has two high hind socks, a big blaze a spot on his knee and a belly spot. He is lovely but I was shocked by the amount of white he has out of my plain mare.

Although I know Freestyle generally sires minimal white, when bred to my bay mare with white, twice I have gotten foals with four high white socks and one of them had a lot of white on his face. If OP’s mares have white, Freestyle may not help with reducing chrome.

Argosy is a non-fading black. All babies have minimal white…maybe a small star and some white coronets behind. Most of his have been black or dark bay with minimal white. The very rare chestnut (from chestnut mares) have minimal white. You can see him on youtube on my tagline.

Navarone’s offspring tend to be pretty minimal on the white from what I’ve seen, although I’m not sure what the mares looked like.

If you like greys picking a homozygous grey stallion (two copies of the grey gene so they always have grey offspring) is one way to guarantee no visible white markings.

Thank-you all for the tips. You echoed a couple of names that I had in mind, but also suggested a few new ones that I will have to look into.

To those of you who offered examples of boys who didn’t kill the white - thank-you so much! :wink:

Going grey is an idea… but if I’m trying to avoid buying bluing shampoo by the gallon, then that isn’t going to really help me much… :no:

Anyone have specific experience with Rosenthal? Did the foal end up with more or less white than the mare?

TIA!

Well, I cared for one by him who was out of a mare with just hind stockings and stripe if I recall correctly. He came out dark bay with 4 high whites and a big blaze… so… while it’s unlikely, I wouldn’t call him a chrome killer.

What about the hunter stallion Westporte?
I haven’t seen many offspring by that had a lot of white. A friend of mine bred her pinto WB mare to him and the foal is solid bay without a spot of white on him.

Indoctro seems to be at the top of the leading sire’s list for hunters. I don’t believe he throws much white.

Another that comes to mind is Concerto Grosso…

I love Westporte but your registration options would be limited because he was never performance tested if that is anything that is important to you. I think he is eligible with Oldenburg NA (but not GOV) or RPSI.

You may have already found the page of Rosenthal foals http://www.hphanoverians.com/foal-of-rosenthal.html.

Glenhill Farm had three Rosenthal foals in 2007 that you can find on the 2007 foals page: http://glenhillfarm.com/GFFoals2007.htm. Two had almost no white and the third has some white but her mother usually produces white, I have a half sister to that one out of the same mare (different stallion) with four socks and a blaze.

I’m not sure I would put Escudo in the “chrome killer” group.

Was looking yesterday at the stallion guide and saw Eclipsed By Color. Have you seen that guy?

Chromed to the max!! If I bred jumpers I’d breed to him…he’s got any amazing jump!
http://www.northernlegacyhorsefarm.com/stallion.htm

concerto grosso?

Sir Sinclair has made some good hunter types and his get are very, very bay. They have small, pretty heads and no white…anywhere!

Eclipsed by Colors “Color” looks like it came from the damside with the For Pleasure and Federalist (Despite her non-chromey appearance), but you’re right, Escudo I didn’t do a very good job of killing it :slight_smile:

Pic of dam, Freia.

Her filly, Cilantro, a Donnerhall son, looked like her (minimal white).

Second Sir Sinclair! You won’t get chrome, that’s for sure. And you won’t get chestnut ever. You only would get a gray if the mare is gray AND passes on her gray gene. What you will get is an athletic bay horse with a phenonenal temperament that is supple and can excel in dressage AND jump. You can google his offspring and look at them. Most are dressage horses as Sir himself competed in dressage. But they can all jump! Sir is more of a modern sport horse type than an older dressage type. I have an 8 year old homebred and I’ve never sat on a nicer horse! Check Sir out at Iron Spring Farm. He also was just awarded Keur by the KWPN and is the only Keur stallion standing in North America!