Looking for Info on Marina Genn

[Ghazzu]

[QUOTE=RBABKA;8769353]
You seem to be an angry individual. So, I will shift gears to a research topic. If a boarding facility accidentally kills your horse due to wrong feed by mistake, and is verified by a vet, do you seek restitution or just let it go and turn it in to the insurance?? What would you do.[/QUOTE]

I’d say that depends to a significant extent on the value of the animal in question, the particulars of the feeding error, the qualifications of the DVM in question, and whether or not an independent post mortem examination was carried out.

Oh, and whether you are posing a hypothetical or grinding an old and dull axe.

[Ghazzu]

[QUOTE=dotneko;8769398]
If you re doing ‘research’ using us, do you not think it fair to tell us exactly what it is?[/QUOTE]

Just so.
There are quite specific ethical guidelines for conducting research involving human subjects.

[Ghazzu]

[QUOTE=RBABKA;8769534]
No, I do not think so. But your response does give me more codes for the study such as in neanderthal perception of the industry.[/QUOTE]

If this is the conclusion you have drawn with regard to the poster in question, then you are guilty of the serious error of drawing hasty and inaccurate conclusions based on insufficient data, as well as allowing your own personal biases to seriously compromise your impartiality.

Any “researcher” worth her/his salt would, at the very least, do an exhaustive literature search on this prolific poster to see the full body of his work on this site, an exercise which would clearly contradict your hasty conclusion.

[Silverbridge]

I think that, truly, the equine industries may be too big and too sprawling in scope to take on as an initial research-and-publishing project-- despite the obvious keen and sensitive (and, veteran!) mind at work.

I’d suggest a wide-eyed and bushy tailed neophyte pollster look into the modalities of something perhaps less complicated than the horsey industrial complex. That is, until he or she has gained a bit more experience with people, with using words, and also just generally here on Earth.

And I can’t recommend the various crafting industries strongly enough.

Maybe begin with the quilting industry, then move on to an exploration of the knitting industry. I don’t know if anyone has, ever, really gotten to the core of the decoupage industry, and I suspect embroidery is particularly ripe for the picking.

All of these industries have like-minded bulletin boards as well as social media pages which are overflowing with information regarding their variously profitable systems and successes.

A word of caution-- steer well clear of bedazzling and bedazzlers. It’s simply (obviously!) too lucrative an industry, and therefore attracts all the crazies. Sequins mess with people’s minds. Seriously. You don’t even want to go there.

Best of luck however your future outcomes may come out.

[yaya]

Now this person is posting these same questions in other forums on this board as rmb

[dotneko]

[QUOTE=RBABKA;8769407]
This a qualitative research of the equine industry in the US culture. Do you have a problem with that? Explain to me if you do, because I want to hear it without prolixity.[/QUOTE]

Wait, what? Who are you accusing of ‘prolixity’?

[Graymaresrule]

[QUOTE=RBABKA;8761161]
hoopie, am not a first timer. Have been in the business for 40 years. Now the USEF rules state if one receives money for instruction,training,boarding etc. then they are not amateur. Why does she have amateur status when receiving remuneration?? We once knew a rider here that was identified as an professional when classifying herself as a amateur in shows. She was suspended for that by the USEF and this happened years ago. I also agree with the post I responded too as well concerning the bedding . I do not think she has a degree as well which is important in my opinion. The equestrian community looks upon professionals as a source of knowledge and motivation and requires that all follow the rules. By the way I am 65.[/QUOTE]

@DoubleTwistedWire;8770646

Presuming the username is the poster’s name, they’re not an active USEF member anyway, so like the status of the trainer in question on this 7 ( ) year old thread, it’s a rather moot point.

FWIW Babka is a sweet yeast dough

[yaya]

[QUOTE=carolprudm;8771795]
FWIW Babka is a sweet yeast dough[/QUOTE]

Puffed up and full of hot air, eh?

[Scribbler]

[QUOTE=yaya;8771639]
Now this person is posting these same questions in other forums on this board as rmb[/QUOTE]

So she is.

[csaper58]

Maybe someone who knows Marina Genn in real life should let her know this nut is obsessed/pissed with her?

This was amusing, the new alter is tipping it towards creepy.

www.chronofhorse.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3048342

Edited one more time this morning as page address changed. Okay it works but only if you are logged in.

[Joanne]

^^^^ “sorry, no matches”

[csaper58]

How about now?

That’s weird, as long as I stay logged in, the link works for me and goes to

SEARCH:

Type: posts; user; Rmb

If I log out, it quits working. I tried to save it to my favorites that doesn’t work either. Maybe it has some thing to do with the reformatting?

Yep only works if I’m logged in.

Asked Moderator for help.

[Joanne]

[QUOTE=csaper58;8772001]
How about now?[/QUOTE]

Using the same link of #125, sorry, no matches.

Did you mean to post a different link?

[Joanne]

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?457717-Equine-Professionals-Do-you-have-a-written-ethical-code&p=8771580#post8771580

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?496441-Teaching-small-children-to-ride&p=8770679#post8770679

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?457717-Equine-Professionals-Do-you-have-a-written-ethical-code&p=8771681#post8771681

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?495979-What-do-you-feed-and-why&p=8770862#post8770862

[csaper58]

[QUOTE=csaper58;8771985]
Maybe someone who knows Marina Genn in real life should let her know this nut is obsessed/pissed with her?

This was amusing, the new alter is tipping it towards creepy.[/QUOTE]

Okay, lets just do this.

[csaper58]

Thanks for the assist Joanne.

Edit to add: That’s weird 2 of Joanne’s posts are gone this morning.

[Joanne]

[QUOTE=csaper58;8772025]
Okay, just this.[/QUOTE]

Can you copy and paste what is in your link?

[Mardi]

[QUOTE=DoubleTwistedWire;8770646]
…they’re not an active USEF member anyway, so like the status of the trainer in question on this 7 ( ) year old thread, it’s a rather moot point.[/QUOTE]

You mean a moo point, right ?
(Joey Tribbiani, on the tv show Friends)

[meupatdoes]

[QUOTE=RBABKA;8761612]
No not at all. This is about the right thing to do in this industry from a deontological perspective. I believe that engaging in wider narratives to secure the development of expertise, responsibility and risk management , is important. Please do not misunderstand my view, qualitative viewpoints are by inductive reasoning. However, differences of opinion are important in decision making. I respect your view and the rules.[/QUOTE]

Oh Christ on a stick.

Let me explain how “rules” work in simple language.

The USEF rules are not in place “to protect the public”. They are in place to govern how USEF members behave vis a vis other USEF memebers. Everyone decides whether or nit they want to join USEF and abide by its rules. You do not have to join to swing your leg over a horse, or even to run a horse business. Therefore, unless you are engaging with USEF and choosing to ride IN THEIR SYSTEM, (which the discussed trainer is NOT), they do not apply.

Laws “to protcet the public” are made on a statewide or federal level. These count no matter where you are or what clubs you have joined. You do not get to decide if you want to join the club and abide by them, rather you have to follow them whether you want to or not. You can not murder anyone, you can’t steal their stuff, you have to carry insurance on your car if you want to drive it. You don’t get to decide whether or not you want to participate, the state and federal government does.

If Marina wants to ride outside of the USEF system THAT IS ALLOWED. NOBODY IS REQUIRED TO JOIN USEF TO RUN A HORSE BUSINESS. She can host dressage shows where everyone goes in bitless bridles wearing a tutu and they are all required to show their MENSA card to be allowed to ride. She can define an amateur in her own personal show series as anyone who has ever worn a blue shirt. This show will not be recognized by USEF, but it will be legal as far as the public is concerned.

But, all competitors will have to drive insured vehicles to the premises and they are not allowed to tie up second place and beat them to death, because that is the law of the land. Any money won will be taxed. Marina can make her own rules about bridles in her own show series, but she does not get to decide about sales tax or the IRS. Nobody has to join USEF and follow USEF rules if they don’t want to, but they do have to follow state and federal law whether they want to or not.

Is that so hard?

Please also note that it is possible to write in a manner that makes sense.
After you figure out the difference between government laws and the rules of clubs which no one is required to join, you should try it sometime.

[keysfins]

This is the thread that came up when I searched, it started in Jan 2015?

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?457717-Equine-Professionals-Do-you-have-a-written-ethical-code