I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with Cimarron or his offspring as far as disposition? He looks like he will be a fantastic field hunter sire, but disposition its the last piece I wanted to research.
Thank you
I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with Cimarron or his offspring as far as disposition? He looks like he will be a fantastic field hunter sire, but disposition its the last piece I wanted to research.
Thank you
Also looking for info on foal size
Could you attach a link or more info for which stallion you’re referring to?/
I handled Cimarron at an inspection many moons ago. He was a sweet heart, and total peach to deal with…a very big boy, but a gentleman.
I have a fabulous 1997 gelding out of a TB mare I bought of the track. He is versatile and competitive and great fun. Before him, I had gotten to training level in eventing and second level in dressage with previous horses. He has taken me much further, safely over many prelims and a one-star, gotten my bronze medal in dressage, gotten me to Fourth Level successfully and the first two scores towards a silver medal, and now we are schooling PSG in hopes of showing at that level later this year. I’ve also hunted him in the field and whipped-in on him. He is a tolerant and kind horse and very forgiving, has a sense of fairness, and is EXTREMELY vocal. His nickname is “The Squealtoy” because he talks and mutters and squeals (in protest “Not fair!” or martyrdom “This is really hard, I am working really, really hard here!” or excitement “X-C is coming, Yee-haw!!!”). He can get bored, which you don’t want, because he may make his own excitement…and he can really buck. Really. Buck. But he has always been fair about it, let’s me know if it might be on the menu that day in which case I can lunge him or gallop him, etc. He does best with variety and cross-training. He’s given pony rides to kids and is the horse you can turn anyone out with. He is a homebred and has exceeded my expectations and made this amateur rider’s dreams come true.
Becky Holder rode the Cim son “Call Me Ollie” and spoke at length about his wonderful temperament in the following article:
http://www.thepilot.com/news/2011/jun/05/requiem-friend/#comment_form
As far as foal size, my boy is 17-17.1, his TB dam was 16.2. He has a full brother that is a bit smaller, more like 16.2-3 (I let a good friend use my mare for a breeding after I retired her from riding). His bro does not have the will-buck-when-bored piece that my boy has, and all indications are that he is going to be an easy ammy horse for her. Ollie was 17 hands.
Badger - Thank you for the great information - did you train him to foxhunt yourself? This is very encouraging to hear, thank you! Any more info you want to share on his hunting (behavior, ability) will be much appreciated! Handy for whipping in, etc. Sounds like he was not difficult to train? Smart?
Extremely smart. Extremely brave except for cows. He does not like cows. He has had to go bravely through fields of cows many times but he grows about two hands and would prefer to exit stage left. No problem using a whip or firing a pistol off him. Dealt with mud and trappy coops fine. This was when I was hunting in KS with big open areas and lots of ground to cover. When I took him to the MFHA Centennial Performance Trial (riding in the field that day), I had masters from three hunts ask about buying him (nope, not for sale). I’m not hunting him in Aiken (been here two seasons) because I’m doing so much dressage with him he is super buff and a lot to contain and the hunting here is so very slow compared to KS, plus the holes that open up in the sand here. Just not something I need to do with an almost PSG dressage horse right now. If I were hunting him regularly down here he would adapt to it, but I can’t plop him into the anticipated excitement of the hunt field once in a blue moon and ask him to plod along, and I have two other horses I hunt. If it were fast hunting, I could bring him occasionally. Or if he were hunting regularly, I’d have him settled fine in a couple weeks, he’d “get” the slower pace and heavy covers and adapt. But with the thick woods, I can’t give him a circle when needed or count on a gallop and I don’t want to have to deal with the bucks if he feels too bottled up and bored, lol.
But when I was hunting him regularly, very brave, handy for whipping in, good around hounds, good opening gates, good letting the field past or galloping off on his own, etc. Stood well. Horse has lots of common sense and loves hunting and will probably return to it all in good time. Very, very smart horse, but so was his dam and she was a fantastic hunt horse.
The first time I took him hunting, he was four, and I was not on the staff roster. I was in the field, hill topping, as it was his first time out. Coyote did a fancy turn and all the whips in position got thrown out. Huntsman hollared to me in the hilltoppers to go whip for him because everyone else was out of it and he had hounds heading to a road and out of country. I told him no, I was on a greenie on his first day out. He said I had to go. I grabbed a junior to go with me to mitigate the situation just a bit, and put my boy to work. He took right to it and left the field and galloped crappy terrain and got to the road and stopped hounds. Give him a job and he’s happy.
Oh, another story (I do love talking about my horse). At his first event, as a 4yo going BN, I had a long day showing him around, riding him and his mom, walking two levels of xc country, braiding, etc. It was late by the time I got around to braiding him. He was lying down in his stall. I took the braiding stool in, sat down on it, he put his head in my lap, and I braided his forelock and the top 4-5 braids like that, with his head resting in my lap. :tickled_pink:
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Becky Holder rode the Cim son “Call Me Ollie” and spoke at length about his wonderful temperament in the following article:
http://www.thepilot.com/news/2011/jun/05/requiem-friend/#comment_form
As far as foal size, my boy is 17-17.1, his TB dam was 16.2. He has a full brother that is a bit smaller, more like 16.2-3 (I let a good friend use my mare for a breeding after I retired her from riding). His bro does not have the will-buck-when-bored piece that my boy has, and all indications are that he is going to be an easy ammy horse for her. Ollie was 17 hands.[/QUOTE]
I owned Ollie’s mother (but wasn’t his breeder)!! Cim did not ad height, my mare was about 17.1, but did improve temperament, the mare was a bit of a nut He also didn’t help lighten her up (or improve her largish head
So I just saw this thread and have a Cimarron / TB gelding and he is exactly like Badger described. I would love to know if you ended up buying this horse and how did it turn out??