Looking for more saddle opinions please - Lancer

If you were looking for a lower priced saddle would you consider this used Lancer?

http://www.pleasantridge.ca/index.php/used-16-5-lancer-all-purpose.html

I’m not familiar with the brand. Likely to be foam or flocked? How old would you guess it is…and any other thoughts / opinions. Thanks in advance:D​​​​​​

I’m learning lots on this forum.

http://www.pleasantridge.ca/index.ph…e-passier.html

Also this passier…

And this stubben Siegfried… Though it does not give a tree width

https://www.sprucewoodtack.com/used-stubben-siegfried-all-purpose-17-saddle.html

Did you look thru these, that you can have a 7 day trial, send them back if they don’t fit you or your horse?

http://www.pelham-saddlery.com/tack/allpurposesaddle.html

That Passier is a kid’s saddle, not sure what size you are?

Honestly I’d pass on all of those saddles. Why don’t you buy a Wintec, Tekna or Thorowgood. Get something new, more updated style and has an adjustable gullet.

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Thank you, though I’m in Canada so from their website sounds like it will not work for me

"Canada
If you would like to purchase a saddle and you live in Canada, it must be shipped to a US address or picked up in our store. 7-day trial period will start when the saddle is signed for at the address that the saddle shipped to in the US. Therefore, our Canadian customers are likely to not be able to take advantage of our trial policy."

I am an adult, 5’3 so yes that passier is probably too small! Though i so ride currently in a 14" barrel saddle . 17 inch English saddle is approximately what I will need I’m thinking.

Thanks… I am quite attracted to the wintecs and Thorowgoods for sure since they’re affordable for me but still have good reviews

Maybe some of the Canadian posters can help you find a similar store in Canada, where you can try saddles they send you, if you are where there are no places to try them first?

OP, I’ve noticed that you’ve bought a horse fairly recently-- congrats! :slight_smile: You’ve also posted quite a few times asking about saddles and saddle fitting. Do you live anywhere near a tack shop that does saddle fitting? Is it possible for a sales assistant experienced in saddle fitting, or better yet, an actual saddle fitter, to come to the barn where your horse is boarded? Failing that, could you trailer your horse to the tack shop, even if you had to pay someone trailering fees?

Saddle fitting really is an art, and for the person doing the fitting to see you and the horse together with the saddle is the best thing, especially if you can have access to more than one type/brand of saddle. I wish you and your horse the best as you start on your journey together!

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@Bluey yes I’m sure there are some similar online in Canada. Or probably some in the U.S that will ship to Canada which I would probably be ok with spending the extra money on shipping if they did an “online” saddle fitting first. Probably a good chance the saddle would be a good fit that way.
I’ve bought 2 saddles at my local greenhawk and returned them due to improper fit. They might have me “blacklisted” now lol :o they never offered any kind of trial so I’m assuming that’s not an option plus only the odd used saddle there.

If you can, go to a tack store and just sit in a bunch of saddles. See what fits you and what’s comfortable and puts you in the right position. Try 16", 16.5 “, and 17” to see what works best. Wintecs are good, durable saddles, but many people find they put them in a chair seat. I have two, and do not have that problem at all. Not every saddle puts every rider in the right position!

A well-built older saddle can be a great find, but if you’re looking to show, I’d go with a more up-to-date close contact–many more recent cc models have a deeper, stickier seat than older really flat ones. The AP’s you’re looking at look dated and while labeled AP, many, if not most, AP saddles don’t put riders in good position for both flat work and jumping.

Lancers, IIRC, was a super-cheap economy brand back in the day, like Kincaid etc. It probably cost the same new as that used price, and they looked as cheap as they were.

That said, there are plenty of decent mid-range saddles that can be had used for a reasonable price. Older Collegiates (when they were still made in Argentina), Toulouse (I rode a school horse in one and found it comfortable and nice enough looking), HDR, Circuit are all decent saddles.

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Thank you! It’s definitely great having my own horse again. Unfortunately no tack stores that are able to help with saddle fitting close by where I live at the moment but I believe there are some saddle fitters close by. Just haven’t bitten the bullet yet.

wow … about the Lancer . Seems tougher knowing what to look for with used than new. I’ve seen other saddles used for sale as well and then found out it is for sale higher than the new price (cheap new). I want to make sure I don’t end up ripped off by assuming that used is always a good deal…

Bite the bullet and find a fitter. It’s going to save you time and money in the long run.

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Some folks love these flat old Passier and Stubben but they are not the majority of riders :slight_smile: and may be more likely to be folks who grew up riding them. Keeping in mind that a new Passier or Stubben is about $4000 CAN, you can see that these 40 year old saddles being sold on for under $500 have pretty much lost all resale value.

I too would say that the average new horse owner is better off getting a modern saddle. Ideal would be a good brand of a used modern saddle that would be about $4000 new and second hand from $1000 to $2000. But that’s a lot more than your budget.

And much as I don’t care for synthetics myself, lots of people are perfectly happy and comfy in a thorowgood or wintec. I think you will be happier too than in a flat old saddle.

Remember that if you buy a 40 year old saddle there is a good chance you will need to spend $200 to reflock it.

I’m now contacting a saddle fitter and hopefully she will have something suitable for me and horsey within budget…

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I had a Lancer for…some reason? I was in high school and not the one doing the purchasing, so I guess it was decided that’s what I was going to have. This description is spot-on. It’s not necessarily that it was a terrible saddle, but definitely cheap. I ended up getting an old school Collegiate, which I love, and the difference in quality is very noticable compared to the Lancer. If you peruse ebay older Collegiates and HDR’s come up pretty regularly and you may be able to snag a deal.

Lancers are a brand you NEVER want to buy used- the quality is terrible! Heck, you don’t really want to buy them new. Good luck with the fitter

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thx she has suggested a few saddles like wintecs thorowgoods Bates and hastilow and some she might bring out she has used on consignment to try

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Is it M?
I only just noticed you’re in BC and there are only a few fitters, and one would never carry those brands. If it is M, you’re in good hands!
RE Bates: don’t buy one with Cair (it’s comparable to the Lancers of air bags :wink: ) if you find the Bates works for you

@fanfayre actually she’s in Alberta . I’m right on the border

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