Just keep in mind that the US has completely failed on the testing front. That means we don’t know even remotely how many cases there actually are. This doesn’t mean one shouldn’t go. But don’t rely on the number of reported cases as the basis for a decision.
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Very true, and there are probably more than reported. But given the nature of the disease, how much threat does that really pose to the vast majority of citizens? The biggest threat to most of us is a lot of inconvenience, and that will pass.
I’m remembering the “ebola outbreak” and “ebola epidemic” that the media tried hard to sell. There were what, less than 10 cases in the U.S., and all but 2 or 3 were contracted overseas? :winkgrin: The media isn’t to be counted on at all, really.
The media always oversells atypical events to be a crisis, an emergency, a widespread panic. Because what the media really wants is not to report news, but to gain eyeballs. Things that are fearful and emotional keep eyes & ears glued to the sources of the next report.
Coronavirus is definitely a different level of spread from other recent disease invasions, and it will be a concern, but we’ll deal with it.
From a broad public perspective, there is likely to be considerable inconvenience, but in the end things will be ok.
Five years from now we won’t even remember this clearly. If someone brings it up, we’ll feel silly remembering the level of public panic.
Some of us will be very annoyed with ourselves if we remember that we missed LRK3D over it.
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I’m normally not an alarmist. So we are in a wait and see. But given that a suburban Indpls area grade school just had a first confirmed child case yesterday and is now closed for 2 wks - where did a child pick this up? … and this is not an Epicenter …. maybe all bets are off.
https://fox59.com/news/education/hic…closed-monday/
Not betting either on the optimism of the 48K college students, here local to me, swapping spit on spring break. The local Asian kids are taking it very seriously, some already wearing face masks. And store workers have gloves on.
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https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Area-schools-close-over-COVID-19-concerns-568627721.html
https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article240970991.html
One of them a Walmart employee…yikes
https://www.wave3.com/2020/03/09/walmart-employee-among-covid-cases-kentucky/
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Please keep in mind that:
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COVID-19 currently kills at a higher rate than the seasonal flu and we have no vaccine. So no this is not just like the flu. The flu kills so many because we have become complacent to it. Do we really want to become complacent to another disease?
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Yes COVID-19 seems to be more deadly to those over 60 and those with compromised systems. Remember the doctor in China who first reported it died and he was not over 60. The average age of those who died in Italy is 81. That is why the rest of us need to be careful we don’t get and spread it. It is up to us to protect the vulnerable.
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Never been to LRK3D, but since it is an outdoor event the ability to keep your distance during cross country is a positive. But what about during the dressage or jumping phase where everyone is in stands? Or wandering the food areas? NYC just gave a press conference where they say be more worried about person to person contact than from possible contamination from surfaces.
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I don’t think the media is being alarmist. The problem is getting accurate information out to the public. NYC did a good press conference you can watch all or some of the 2 hours here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-Vqi4io_U
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I’m not saying not to go as we know all these big events keep a lot of people employed and the poorer amongst us always get hit the hardest. Just know the facts and be careful, especially if you are over 60 and/or have a compromised system.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJDpV-igjs
CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett explains the long-term dangers of the Covid-19 coronavirus - saying it’s the scariest outbreak he’s dealt with in his 20-year career.
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I was debating going this year to tie in to a wedding in Indiana but I’m currently “wait and see” on all fronts. No, I’m young and healthy and would probably be fine but other family members are elderly, smokers, have high blood pressure, fighting cancer, etc etc and I certainly don’t want them to be hospitalized, maybe die because I wanted to go to watch a horse show.
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Our county health department this afternoon announced a outright ban on all events attended by more than 1000 people (including sporting events), and recommends that no one attend gatherings of more than 50 people, and employers cancel all non-essential travel. Berkeley (where my husband works) and Stanford have suspended most in person classes and meetings. The health department recommends everyone 50 and over stay home as much as possible, since the risks for that age group are higher as well. My mom is undergoing chemotherapy so I’m trying to get her to stay home more and not come to local events or go shopping.
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Thank you for thinking of others. I’m not scared of dying from this virus, but I am terrified for my compromised father when it gets to my geographic location. I can only hope that when someone close to me requires medical help to fight it off - that they are one of the earlier cases and there are medical personnel and resources still available to help them.
Flatten the curve!!
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LRK3DE has posted a video on facebook stating that the event will be running, as of today. (https://www.facebook.com/KentuckyThreeDayEvent/videos/vb.107928939639/210649236814700/?type=2&theater)
Interesting, considering NHL and NBA have all cancelled, and there are usually 35,000 people at Landrover on XC day, sharing small spaces, porta potties, bleachers, sweating, etc. Not good for public safety.
European riders will likely not come now with danger of being able to return home.
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I have a feeling that unless the number of cases drops off before then, they will probably end up having to cancel it.
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It’s not just that the European riders are afraid of getting home, they won’t be able to get here now that there are travel bans from Europe.
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I imagine if things get worse they will end up cancelling it, but it’s a month out so is on a wait and see pattern, which I think is wise.
Also, stop blaming the “media.” Reputable news sources are why we know so much about this virus. That doesn’t include Facebook.
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Keeneland’s instagram just said they are opening the spring meet on April 2 WITHOUT spectators allowed and will consider re-opening to the public on April 15.
Keeneland isn’t that different than Land Rover…
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That’s not an apples-to-apples comparison at the moment. The NHL and NBA had games scheduled consistently over the next 6 weeks, Land Rover is still 6 weeks out. I think there are still high odds it ends up getting canceled or not allowing spectators, but I appreciate that they aren’t rushing to judgment and are giving it time to play out a little more.
In an Olympic qualifying year, I was wondering how many European riders we would get even without this issue (now it will presumably be none, if the event even happens), depending on what qualifying events they might be required to do for selectors to see them closer to home? I know Badminton is usually an option for US riders, but does anyone know if Kentucky is typically an option for European riders under other federations’ criteria?
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What are the chances that LRK3DE might postpone instead of cancel outright? I know that would be extremely difficult to organize, but if they find it impossible to run on their scheduled date, postponement might be the most palatable option in an unfortunate situation.
The public reaction will drive not only virus concerns, but also the willingness of the vendors and others who support LRK3DE to put in their dollars. It may be a financial decision.
And yes, a lot of the reaction is largely driven by the media, not that the population understands the virus. Any time the media goes wall-to-wall with coverage of anything, this wide-scale public reaction is inevitable. It’s been studied.
It seems that there is an effort on to use the cancellations to delay the spread of the virus and buy time … but it will not be possible to stop it. We can’t all stay home forever. It’s here and there is no sending it away.
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Impressive crystal ball you have there. I am sure the families of all the people who have died are looking forward you you remembering how silly we all were.
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Clicker expo KY edition cancelled today. Day before event started. Many speakers and attendees were there when notified.
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majority is driven by the fact hospitals are already overloading in many countries and we have no idea the true impact it will have in North America, none of us know for sure what is really happening.
Better to err on the side of caution. Sorry, I love Landrover as much as the next and attend almost every year, but world health and safety is more important than ribbons.
They have closed all the schools here in Ontario. I don’t think all these closures are happening over nothing. If everyone participates in good hygiene practices and stays home we may be able to lessen the event, and thats worth the effort.
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