It seems very plausible to me.
You have someone who had two horses die and they want to blame someone else for it, very publicly. To the point of them not looking like the most mentally stable person.
As has been made very clear by the various threads on monensin, it is quite easy to get in so very many things.
Oh, I’m not comparing it to V’s batshittery by any stretch!
It would sure be interesting to know how that conclusion was reached. I mean, sure, maybe he was born on the other side of the border? Maybe a parent is American? Maybe has dual citizenship for any number of reasons? But also, wtf does it matter?
I was trying to figure out what the point was too - like he’s American so he follows the US rules instead of Canada? WTF? I’m not going over to her page to immerse myself in nuttery but it sounds like her cheese has slipped off the cracker. Maybe it’s her setting up the push to discredit MB in the US, since it doesn’t seem it’s gaining traction in Canada?
Munchausen Syndrom?
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Night_flight is right, the CFIA has nothing to do with it?? I don’t know. When I google it says they inspect their facilities and that it is an approved facility…
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From what I’ve learned:
Unrelated to the MB issue, just related to the CFIA, this part specifically:
Since supplements are different from feeds, does this mean the CFIA considers then equal in this context?
But even more importantly, how are they ever able to determine that anything, feed or especially a supplement, is effective?
Still, not a single mention of this from anyone/thing to say madbarn isn’t safe to feed.
Her Facebook feed has also moved on. Either there’s a shoe yet to drop or she gave up.
I got the impression that the CFIA considers supplements =feeds wrt food safety for snimal and people.
As for the CFIA determining if a feed or supplement is effective or achieves what it says it does may explain why it seems like there are more supplements available in the US than up here?
Yes…I’m envious of the supplements available in the US but not up here in Canada 
Yes, that makes it seem like they consider them the “same”
But even with the various supplements from MadBarn itself, how do you ever begin to prove efficacy? Certainly the Visceral product is very hit and miss in whether it works for a horse or not, as one should expect from any gut supplement.
That’s more or less rhetorical at this point lol
How to prove efficacy? Good question. Sounds good on paper though. I wonder if the concern is mainly labeling. Ie language laws to include both French and English? Still wish more supplements were available up here… but at a reasonable cost lol!
I wouldn’t be surprised if efficacy just means you can’t claim that a product will cure a particular problem unless you have studies to back it. You can sell it, but just list the ingredients rather than claim it’s for a particular use.
Labels are pretty easy to adjust/translate/slap on over or instead of existing labels. DINs (licenses) for importing are harder to come by. Ever notice how some products go away from Canuck shelves for years on end and then show up again? That’s what happens when a manufacturer doesn’t stay on top of keeping their product licensed for import, their DIN expires, and it takes forever to jump through all the hoops to start back at square one.
I’m going back a long way in my memory, but yes, anything that makes a claim to treat/cure/etc is getting pulled from shelves, not licensed, not imported for the retail market.
that would make sense, thanks
That is why all these supplements/ cures say they “support” the liver, digestive process, joints, etc. They are not saying that they are a cure when there are no studies to back up their claims. So they use this wording which really means nothing and they are safe.
I ordered my big bag of Mad Barn Omneity premix a couple of weeks ago and maresy is happily eating it in her mash.
I don’t know how different supplement and feed regulation is between Canada and the US. Now online is a whole different game, no rules at all. I’m sure there are individual differences in specific ingredients or additives between Canada and the US, but by and large the regulations are likely quite similar in effect.
We do have homeopathic remedies around for horse and human (homeopathic is weirdly popular in the UK and Canada sometimes reflects UK trends) so obviously “effective” is not something that is being enforced 
. It might just be about what you’re claiming on the label.
Homeopathy is used in the EU and India. Some EU countries national insurance covers homeopathic treatments.
There are certain products that fall under CFIA perview, and certain products that fall under Health Canada LRVHP program and need a NN (notification number). Omneity falls under CFIA, where many of the rest of MadBarn supplements fall under Health Canada.
I do not believe that Ms. Findlay understands the full scope of regulations of either. She recently made untrue allegations about Paddock Tree Concentrate stating it is a major regulatory issue, soon to be rectified, then notified CFIA. CFIA has confirmed that her statements are incorrect and the product is not a regulatory issue. I’m sure they are about fed up with her carryings on as well.
Interesting! Why would the other MB supplements fall under Health Canada?
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