Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[MHM]

@eggbutt

@Omgitsme

I was told that one farm she was asked to leave (she wasn’t even a boarder) installed security cameras after informing her she was unwelcome. Do you recall this or was I misinformed?

Yes, but I don’t know if she was the reason cameras were installed. I know there are cameras there now.

Maybe that’s why LK testified on the witness stand that she was already planning to tear down MB’s new security cameras before he even put them up.

That was an amazing admission in a court of law.

[trubandloki]

@Jenerationx

No. MB was not an active shooter. You either don’t know the definition or are intentionally posting a falsehood over and over.

Or, some combination of both things!

@SillyHorse

The definition has been posted here quite a few times, so I’m taking door number two, Monty

Yes, but some posters believe they are smarter than everyone else and they do not need to read anything that tells them facts or the truth. So just because real information has been posted for them to read does not mean they bothered to read it.

@hut-ho78

It wasn’t jammed, it was empty.

But, but, but… Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman said under oath on the stand that it was jammed. So it must be true that it was jammed, right?

@hut-ho78

He specifically said he checked for “weapons or anything that could hurt me.”

Do you think to police that a whole magazine is not considered weapons?
An officer searching for weapons who finds a full magazine would remove the magazine, not just leave it there.
This is not Rocket Surgery.

[trubandloki]

@Rubyroo

I’m getting whiplash here. You all have been insisting that Michael asked Lauren to leave many times. Michael himself apparently said he asked her to leave many, many, many times, you have all argued many times that Michael’s girlfriend had every right to tell her to leave, but now one of you has suddenly decided that Michael DIDN’T want his girlfriend to tell her to leave and that the ONLY person who was allowed to tell her to leave was Michael’s lawyer and they were all keeping it a secret on purpose so that the sheriff could surprise her, but please remind me who was part of the negotiations about Lauren leaving that took place right before the shooting?

So lots of people were telling Lauren they wanted her to leave, but the fact that they didn’t use the term “evict” in their conversations means that it was a secret that they wanted her to leave and the sheriff would be able to surprise her with a formal eviction notice. Do I have that right?

You need to read and realize what words were used.
As I said earlier in this very same thread, there is a huge difference between asking someone to leave and evicting them.
Lauren was asked to leave many many many times. Eviction notice was given right before she proclaimed Finish The Bastard.
So, asked to leave - YES.
Told she was being evicted - No. Not until the very end.
Two VERY different things and leave and evict are not interchangeable.

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

The criticism was Heymer should have found the magazine. I was talking about Heymer trying to do 3 things at one time.

Using pronouns leads to confusion.
There are a lotta He’s in this incident.
Your comment made no sense.

[eggbutt]

You certainly seem to have a vested interest in arguing old points of this case…eviction versus being told to leave, etc. Why are you here in the den of the Elderly Illegal Mob if not to argue all points and defend the Kanareks ad nauseum?

[trubandloki]

Hey @CurrentlyHorseless, any updates on the police report situation? Where can we find it to read? What does it say?

I believe there are only a few more days for Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) and Kirby Kanarek (@Seeker1) to respond to their subpoenas (I am assuming they were successfully served). I wonder if they are going to actually respond this time or will there be another contempt filing?

[Jealoushe]

@RHdobes563

Well, if MB had ONLY two boarders other than LK’s two, it’s still more profitable if she had left. Because that would have made the apartment available.

Yeah I was just curious what the status was at that time, to get a better overall picture of the barn atmosphere and comings and goings. Im going to assume there was more than 2 lol

[Rubyroo]

@eggbutt

You certainly seem to have a vested interest in arguing old points of this case…eviction versus being told to leave, etc. Why are you here in the den of the Elderly Illegal Mob if not to argue all points and defend the Kanareks ad nauseum?

So no, you can’t find anywhere in my posts where I defend anyone, but you accuse me of defending the Kanareks anyway. Got it.

[Jealoushe]

@ninakl

I don’t know why it is so hard for people to understand that boarding is a loss leader. Training, horse shows and sales are where trainers make profits.

I fully understand the economics of running an equestrian facility. Just trying to get the facts straight myself in understanding the situation.

[Jealoushe]

I picked up ya’ll from this very board lol I say it all the time and I’m as canuck as canuck can be haha

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Rubyroo

So lots of people were telling Lauren they wanted her to leave, but the fact that they didn’t use the term “evict” in their conversations means that it was a secret that they wanted her to leave and the sheriff would be able to surprise her with a formal eviction notice. Do I have that right?

No! Lol, you can’t be that ignorant, I know you’re not. I was talking about the eviction, not. asking her to leave. Of course he asked her to leave. Everyone told her to get out. I was talking about telling her the eviction was coming g. That’s the job of the sherif on the day. She was told to leave for weeks, months, before evicted. I know you know the difference. I’m not wasting any more brain cells on you… Be ignorant if it makes you giggle. You’re like a black hole. A person talks to you and it just falls in and dissappears.

[Jealoushe]

@Rubyroo

Is it normal for an Olympic dressage rider to advertise horses for sale on Facebook? I’ve never seen that before, but I’m only familiar with the jumping disciplines. None of the top trainers, Olympics or not, advertise horses anywhere on the internet, let alone Facebook.

Boyd Martin does. Jessica Phoenix does. Selena O Hanlon, Tami Smith…they all do. Maybe it’s more the eventers who do.

[Warmblood1]

@Jealoushe

@Rubyroo

Is it normal for an Olympic dressage rider to advertise horses for sale on Facebook? I’ve never seen that before, but I’m only familiar with the jumping disciplines. None of the top trainers, Olympics or not, advertise horses anywhere on the internet, let alone Facebook.

Boyd Martin does. Jessica Phoenix does. Selena O Hanlon, Tami Smith…they all do. Maybe it’s more the eventers who do.

There are a ton of dressage riders that advertise on FB, too. Also a lot of reserve riders and GP riders. Often times it’s on their personal pages. If someone isn’t friends with them, they likely won’t see it.

[Jealoushe]

There must be some toros in the atmosphere…

[2tempe]

Agree. MHG Clients probably paid board directly to the farm. Training paid to MHG.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@erinmeri

As for the whole bit of testimony about the “why can’t we just tell her she’s being evicted” text. 1) key word WAS evicted, 2) Bilinkas did try to elaborate on that (IMHO a bit clumsily, I would have really hammered home on evicted vs asked to leave) and the supposed fact that she WAS asked, by several people - but 3) Taylor shot him down which led to angry sidebar and line of questioning was dropped because Taylor wouldn’t allow it.

Where do you see the key word “was” in that question?

I would interpret the contraction as “why can’t we just tell her she is being evicted”?

If I wanted to convey the past tense, I’d say “why can’t we remind her she’s been evicted”. (She has been evicted.)

The contraction “she’s” at best is ambiguous, but I don’t think I’d use the contraction for “she was”. The word “being” indicates present tense as the moment she is being told she is being evicted.

There is no key word “was” in that quote.

[BatCoach]

thank you for the Bring It On quote.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Ambitious_Kate

@hut-ho78

I find it disgusting that you continue to make light of the fact that RG saved everyone that day. No matter what else he has done with his life, he took down an active shooter. Good for RG. Things would be a lot worse for MB if he hadn’t.

I find it disgusting how RG wasn’t investigated for possibly shooting LK himself, and for probably being the one with a gun to start with, so here we both are disgusted about RG. I don’t think he saved anybody, I think he jumped MB and beat the living daylights out of him and either shot LK himself, or the gun went off during RG’s attack. I find it disgusting that you attempt to make RG into a hero, when he’s a drug addicted grifter, bully and stalked children online, besides bullying people at the barn, and I do not for one minute believe that he’s a former marine, and I do believe that he’s pretending to be military when he isn’t. So there’s all that, too.

If RG had been charged with assault, it would be easy to establish that he acted in self defense after MB started shooting. It was so obvious to the authorities that RG acted in self defense that he was never even charged.

[Warmblood1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

If RG had been charged with assault, it would be easy to establish that he acted in self defense after MB started shooting. It was so obvious to the authorities that RG acted in self defense that he was never even charged.

You have no idea what the authorities thought. Despite that, there wasn’t evidence to lead to a conviction. Look at the Casey Anthony case: not enough evidence to lead to a conviction.

And in this case, no one was convicted of a criminal charge. MB was acquitted.

[Rubyroo]

@Ambitious_Kate

I find it disgusting how RG wasn’t investigated for possibly shooting LK himself,