Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[MHM]

If only the police had bothered to retrieve the crime scene video that RG told them about right off the bat.

[CindyB59]

Maybe their bank accounts deposit should be checked about then.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

The picture with the bullet path that hit the door. The one that supposedly was aimed at RG.
Prosecution asked what it meant about where the barrel of the gun was at. Officer testified that the front of the barrel of the gun was approximately near where the front of the pickup truck was. Prosecution asked for clairfication. Officer confirmed the muzzle was near the front of the truck.

Could not confirm the casings were related to the defect used to create the trajectory or even what type of bullet was used to create the defect.

Not correct. That was the trajectory from the window to the ground and the shooter could have been standing anywhere along that trajectory.

[RHdobes563]

deleted as it is a duplicate

[hut-ho78]

@RHdobes563

Three years is a long time to be able to “clean up” your work record. There could have been a minor hand-slapping for the way the investigation was handled. Maybe those two delivered babies on a highway, participated in “shop with cops” events, organized money-raising endeavors for permanently injured officers.

There are a LOT of things that could be taken into account when a promotion is given. Just like, if you read the originally posted link to the disciplinary report, there are LOTS OF REASONS why police officers can be suspended or terminated from their jobs (like ‘not being a resident of New Jersey, as required’).

First you wanted the 2019 report. I found one. Then you said it didn’t give the information you needed which was to see if any of the officers were written up, reprimanded, disciplined for their role in the shooting. However, the report provided stated no discipline activity was reported for Morris County as well as a lot of other counties.

You aren’t looking for information unless it’s helps your fake story that LE did a bad job. You are only quibbling with me because you don’t like the facts.

[SierraMist]

@Sdel

This picture includes the scale. You can eyeball it and see that the casings were pretty far away from where MB was supposed to have been. It’s closer to the truck than to the bush/porch.

Ejected shell casings can fly in any direction and be 20 feet apart (or more) from the place where the gun was fired. They don’t just fall straight down out of the gun.

[BigMama1]

@BatCoach

forgive and ignore me if this is too intrusive, but did this poor woman have to deal with 2 simultaneous menstrual cycles? I can barely deal with one!

You know, it never occurred to me to ask! She had surgery to remove all the duplicates in her late teens.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Jealoushe

Ahh that’s amazing to hear about someone who has gone through that scenario! I’m glad she had successful pregnancies! A lot of people with it end up bed ridden during pregnancy and with children who suffer from CP as a complication.

Yes they were considered twins, and yes, she was in bed the majority of her pregnancy. She only had the one pregnancy, she also almost died. Yhe kids were exceptionally bright, but always 9f small stature, although she was not tall herself. She was Hungarian, and told stories of having walked across the Hungarian boarder into Chekloslakia through the woods to escape. She had fallen in loved with a visiting professor from the US who was married with a family, and she had run away from Hungary, got on a boat and showed up on his doorstep in upstate new york. He divorced his first family and married her, 25 years his junior, and this is no lie, I knew them both. Very wierd story about how it was God who brought them together, but hey, we all write our own realities. She spoke with and accent that made “vacume” sound like “wacume” and even today me and my (now adult ) children will giggle while we “wacume the floor”, remering her. But I digress.

[Sdel]

Here one can see more easily which pane was broken and where the door defect is. And you can see, that in order to have had a hand on the door and fallen through (an obviously open door) something isn’t right.

Doesn’t that look a bit low to be near RG’s head?

[BigMama1]

@Jealoushe

No one ovary on each side and for me it’s split down the middle with one side bigger than the other. I didn’t even know about it until about 10 years ago. It’s basically your uterus forms and splits down the middle. Some people have a heart shaped one as it didn’t entirely split. It’s called a horned uterus for anyone interested and there isn’t a tonne of information out there about it.

Is that the same as a bifurcated uterus? My understanding is that is one uterus split into two, which is not the same as people who have a second, separate uterus. Who knew there were so many possibilities?

[Ambitious_Kate]

How can the bullet have hit the saddle pad unless the door was open, and the bulket came over that railing? And what is that, a bullet hole in the opposit window? Something doesn’t add up. Maybe a separate incident between LK and RG

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Sdel

Doesn’t that look a bit low to be near RG’s head?

Yes. Quite.

[Knights_Mom]

@SierraMist

Ejected shell casings can fly in any direction and be 20 feet apart (or more) from the place where the gun was fired. They don’t just fall straight down out of the gun.

If true, then I wonder why law enforcement even bothers noting where they are at all.

[Sdel]

The thing that doesn’t add up is how does RG fall across a bullet path in order to fall in through the door?

But he also testified to MB having moved in a direction (following LK) that does not take MB to the gravel driveway from which RG claims he shot from.

The one picture makes it clear. If MB shot LK from the bush and then chased her 3-4 steps toward the pond in the background, then in order to shoot from the gravel of the driveway the angle would not match the bullet trajectory. In fact, from this picture it kind of makes the drawing look like it misrepresents things quite a bit.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@SierraMist

Ejected shell casings can fly in any direction and be 20 feet apart (or more) from the place where the gun was fired. They don’t just fall straight down out of the gun.

If true, then I wonder why law enforcement even bothers noting where they are at all.

It’s true.

[RHdobes563]

@hut-ho78

@RHdobes563

Three years is a long time to be able to “clean up” your work record. There could have been a minor hand-slapping for the way the investigation was handled. Maybe those two delivered babies on a highway, participated in “shop with cops” events, organized money-raising endeavors for permanently injured officers.

There are a LOT of things that could be taken into account when a promotion is given. Just like, if you read the originally posted link to the disciplinary report, there are LOTS OF REASONS why police officers can be suspended or terminated from their jobs (like ‘not being a resident of New Jersey, as required’).

The 2019 report that you say is insufficient shows no disciplinary actions for Morris County as well as others in 2019.

The link you provided is for the New Jersey STATE police. When I clicked on “2019”, I found no mention of any townships, cities, unincorporated areas, etc.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@SierraMist

Ejected shell casings can fly in any direction and be 20 feet apart (or more) from the place where the gun was fired. They don’t just fall straight down out of the gun.

If true, then I wonder why law enforcement even bothers noting where they are at all.

It’s true.

Both those things can’t be true. Either the lay of the casings is more defined than you say or it can’t possibly be noteworthy.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@SierraMist

Ejected shell casings can fly in any direction and be 20 feet apart (or more) from the place where the gun was fired. They don’t just fall straight down out of the gun.

If true, then I wonder why law enforcement even bothers noting where they are at all.

It’s true.

Both those things can’t be true. Either the lay of the casings is more defined than you say or it can’t possibly be noteworthy.

https://www.police1.com/archive/articles/findings-are-now-firm-ejected-shell-casings-cant-reliably-tell-much-about-a-shooters-location-iIvDTegY0THF7otG/

[Fiesta01]

So sorry you have to go through this.

[hut-ho78]

And they can be hard to find. https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/collecting-up-spent-brass-casings.89527/