Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

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@eggbutt

I am so convinced she had the gun and she was shot during a scuffle with Michael trying to defend himself. I hope that line of thinking is pursued during the civil trials, if only by bringing up all her taunting posts and the “missing gun” post. What a dangerous woman.

Not only that, RG’s statement to the police supports this as an idea. The papers, citing police reports, said he saw MB brandish on gun through the kitchen window before rushing out “to be shot at”. So, it seems entirely plausible that what he saw was MB grabbing the gun away from Lauren and a struggle over the gun.

[CanteringCarrot]

Really, this malarkey again?

There’s threads truly so move in a circular fashion

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78, you have said here that you do not follow Lauren on social media at all, so there is no chance that you could have seen the actual post yourself to know what it said before it was taken down. You have correctly admitted here that Lauren lies extensively. So can you explain to me why it is that you choose to believe her about the Ruger post and not the forum people who are not prone to lying, and a volume of people on the internet (screen shots of their posts have been provided on previous threads) who also saw the Ruger post before it was deleted?

I looked at her Facebook profile the day we first learned she was shot when it was still open to the public. I saw the post about two guns, only one post, but couldn’t remember what they were.

I saw KM’s post about LK’s private messages and believed her, was horrified. Then others spoke up. Some people said they were attacked for telling her it would be better not to post online.

The same people complaining about LK attacking them were saying bad things about LK online. I went back to see what happened first, did LK really attack them for no reason or did they taunt and bait her (as they did anyone with a different opinion than their own) prior to her messages. Yes, they did. They started when she was still in a coma. That relentless pounding of LK bad/MB good has had quite an effect on the threads starting with the first one. There are people posting now who used to post in a more balanced and thoughtful manner who are now relentlessly pounding on LK on SM. No, I don’t believe the person saying she saw Rugers or the ones backing her up. She hasn’t been wrong about just that either.

Finally, a screen shot of the now infamous post was posted here online. Walthers.

I didn’t attack her. I started posted factual, law related info in response to her posting erroneous information. She lashed out at me and I did not take it. Then the infamous Ruger conversation happened.

I distinctly remembered she posted a pic on her FB of the AR15 and another gun of some type. It may have been the Walthers, not sure. But the AR type rifle for sure.

Incorrect. The Ruger claim started it. Her private messages to you were asking you to remove them, then telling you to remove them, then threatening you while you responded with comments like “boring.”

You would be wrong with your memory then. No surprise at all.

[Jealoushe]

@trubandloki

So yes, the other day (last Saturday to be exact) when CH demanded all day long over and over and over again that people had to post their concrete plausible scenarios, @eggbutt did finally just post her theory for CH (who continued to demand people to post their concrete plausible scenarios, thankfully the mods deleted a bunch of her repeat demands).

Saturday right, think I was out all day riding my horses… Then they were all deleted? But somehow I’m supposed to know everything.

It’s a discussion forum, if I have a question I will ask it rather than make an assumption.

I don’t believe that only people who read every single post should be allowed to post here. Especially when the thread moves like this one. If I come to the thread and there are hundreds and hundreds of posts to catch up, I just start at the most recent to see if anything new has developed.

If my posts bother you so much, you know what to do.

Otherwise, why don’t we all just stop telling other people how to post, what questions they can or can not ask, and decide what opinions are allowed in the threads? Just a thought. No one has to reply to my questions if they don’t want to.

[DownYonder]

@hut-ho78

Her private messages to you were asking you to remove them, then telling you to remove them, then threatening you while you responded with comments like “boring.”

Fascinating that you know the contents of her private messages to someone else.

[Ambitious_Kate]

I rememer reading her post about a Ruger. I remember it was a Ruger, because at the time I was personally looking at a Walther, and wondered why she wasn’t buying a Walther, and what the specifications were of the Ruger that she liked them over Walthers. I condsidered Walthers good choices, and very nicely handled guns for smaller hands, which I have, and I assumed she had, not being a large person, and had shot some Rugers that I found unwieldy compared. So when she said that I went “Hmmm. Interesting.”

[trubandloki]

@Jealoushe

@trubandloki

So yes, the other day (last Saturday to be exact) when CH demanded all day long over and over and over again that people had to post their concrete plausible scenarios, @eggbutt did finally just post her theory for CH (who continued to demand people to post their concrete plausible scenarios, thankfully the mods deleted a bunch of her repeat demands).

Saturday right, think I was out all day riding my horses… Then they were all deleted? But somehow I’m supposed to know everything.

It’s a discussion forum, if I have a question I will ask it rather than make an assumption.

I don’t believe that only people who read every single post should be allowed to post here. Especially when the thread moves like this one. If I come to thread and there are hundreds and hundreds of posts to catch up, I just start at the most recent to see if anything new has developed.

If my posts bother you so much, you know what to do.

Otherwise, why don’t we all just stop telling other people how to post, what questions they can or can not ask, and decide what opinions are allowed in the threads? Just a thought. No one has to reply to my questions if they don’t want to.

No one was telling you how to post. That is a weird response.

I was just posting that it seemed weird that you were surprised by EB’s post since she has posted it so many times.
Now I know, you do not read.

Her post was still there from that discussion, that is not what was removed.

So to answer your question, yes, that is one of the concrete plausible theories, @eggbutt has posted it many times before (this is not me saying you should have seen it, it is simply me saying it is not a new theory or a new topic).

[Ambitious_Kate]

@hut-ho78

Her private messages to you were asking you to remove them, then telling you to remove them, then threatening you while you responded with comments like “boring.”

Really.

[Jealoushe]

Well I mean, I do read lol

But yes, I had thought EB might have a different scenario playing out in her head, but never knew what the actual scenario was, nor did I want to pry into it. So I was surprised to see that. I guess I’m behind with the deets.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Her private messages to you were asking you to remove them, then telling you to remove them, then threatening you while you responded with comments like “boring.”

This is an interesting post.

When someone demands you remove something here because they do not agree with it, is your response to remove it?

[Knights_Mom]

@DownYonder

@hut-ho78

Her private messages to you were asking you to remove them, then telling you to remove them, then threatening you while you responded with comments like “boring.”

Fascinating that you know the contents of her private messages to someone else.

I posted them openly so all saw the threats and how she addressed me.

Also, I posted them as she denied saying things to me so I called her bluff as it were. The PMs were threatening me with civil suits for harming her reputation (libel/slander) stating she would attach liens to my home and farm.

[FitzE]

@Kitty64

There are many people in the world who could use someone on their side to stand up for them. You obviously have a passion for sticking up for people. I’d encourage you to find someone who could truly benefit from your passion. LK is not sympathetic by any stretch of the imagination.

1000 times this!

I said this before and also noted that anyone who knows what we know now (through LK’s posts, what she said under oath, and what is known from through others IRL experience with her) and still defends her beyond: gun violence is bad, has something seriously not right going on.

And am I right in reading that the same disinterested parties who are defending her to the death turned on their heels went to another thread and were unsympathetic to a child victim of sexual abuse?

[SillyHorse]

@FitzE

And am I right in reading that the same disinterested parties who are defending her to the death turned on their heels went to another thread and were unsympathetic to a child victim of sexual abuse?

Yes, you are right.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@eggbutt

I am so convinced she had the gun and she was shot during a scuffle with Michael trying to defend himself. I hope that line of thinking is pursued during the civil trials, if only by bringing up all her taunting posts and the “missing gun” post. What a dangerous woman.

This is exactamundo what I think happened. I think LK Had the gun and finding it NOT in the safe may even have been what brought him up to the house, possibly thinking they weren’t there because of the order to vacate the night before. It may very well be why he was conciliatory when finding them there, knowing she had it, and even been why he was approaching showing his hands, as she and RG described. However the scuffle happened, I think she was wounded in the scuffle when someone, either MB or RG got it out of her hands and wounded her. If she didn’t have it, RG had it. Its also possible RG had it, and Lauren attacked MB with her phone, and started the scuffle that way.

[Kitty64]

Hahaha!! Glad I wasn’t the only one who picked that up!

[Jealoushe]

So another question…sorry in advance if this has already been asked and I missed it.

IF the recordings are real and truly include the content that has been suggested by the Ks that MB et all were discussing a plan to murder LK, how would you feel about that?

[ekat]

@Jealoushe

IF the recordings are real and truly include the content that has been suggested by the Ks that MB et all were discussing a plan to murder LK, how would you feel about that?

Personally, I’d be even more concerned about Morris County’s justice system than I already am, because if those recordings really discuss a plan to murder LK, that matches up with the events the way LK alleges, MHG, RC, and JH all should have been charged with conspiracy.

I’d also be wondering why, in three years, the recordings haven’t been used in the criminal trial, or the 48 Hours, or anywhere else LK has threatened to distribute them.

Finally, I’d be seriously questioning why Mr Deininger and Mr Bilinkas would amend the civil suit to focus on the recordings if they are that damaging to their client.

[trubandloki]

@Jealoushe

So another question…sorry in advance if this has already been asked and I missed it.

IF the recordings are real and truly include the content that has been suggested by the Ks that MB et all were discussing a plan to murder LK, how would you feel about that?

It has been discussed, many times. I am only saying this so you are not surprised if you do not get much in the way of answers.

If the illegal recordings truly had MB and company planning a murder then I have no doubt that the prosecution from the criminal case would have found a way to get them out there already.
The judge was very prosecution friendly.

I got this far in typing my response and Ekat’s response appeared and I will just say that I agree with them.
I mean, it is clear that Morris County’s system is not the best but if there are recordings that have a group of people planning a murder and they did nothing about it, that makes them even worse than I ever imagined.

[Knights_Mom]

@Jealoushe

So another question…sorry in advance if this has already been asked and I missed it.

IF the recordings are real and truly include the content that has been suggested by the Ks that MB et all were discussing a plan to murder LK, how would you feel about that?

If it’s against the law and comprised of serious planning I would be angry and horrified. If it were a conversation where people were commiserating and blowing off steam I would take it as such.

I suspect the conversations comprised of what steps to take to get her to move out. There would be zero reason to kill her. It wouldn’t accomplish anything.

[trubandloki]

Thinking about it does make me giggle.
Think about how many ordinary conversations you can have any given day that can be twisted to be nefarious by someone not having any background on what is said.

We have to get rid of her can mean very different things depending on what you want it to mean.