@ekat, there is a 5 day order submitted by Shellhorn. Yay! Some sort of movement.
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In English?
I though Shellhorn was only in the loop to be in the loop…
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One of the things being decided at the hearing on Friday was if the prosecutions office had to hand over things gotten during discovery.
It sounds like they do have to provide the grocery lists and all the other stuff they were asked for.
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To the best of my non legal understanding, the MCPO will produce the call and text logs and SM.
The boats kept coming, I had to keep clicking on them until they stopped. It was crazy.
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That could be interesting.
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It is not like we will actually see any of it
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Call logs….there were 4 calls made that day……
Wonder whom they were too.
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I was just reading it.
One of the things at issue last Friday was SGF had subpoena’d Morris County Prosecutor’s forensic records of three cell phones. Schellhorn had asked the court to order the release because the evidence is under seal. LK, through her attorney, said no, because they might get to read shopping lists and such.
This morning Schellhorn submitted an order for signature to release the records, so at this time, it appears the court is not worried about shopping lists.
5 day order Schell 110722.pdf (147.8 KB)
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Thanks for posting! Is this a good thing for MB’s side?
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Yes. Because in part, the other half of these texts were the subject of JK’s subpoena that was ignored…
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It’s a good thing for SGF’s side, since it was their subpoena. MB already had this info from disclosure in the criminal trial.
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I can kind of relate to this. Beyond helping out various nonprofits, my dream, if I were to ever win, has always been to build equestrian centers in different parts of the U.S. to help those without big budgets for horses to come and learn. The goal would be to recruit excellent instructors, find some solid schoolmasters to learn on, and hopefully, help find some untapped talent for the future U.S. Team. A more reasonable goal, however, would be to buy a few nice horses and put them either with my current trainer and/or with other trainers that they might recommend, especially if they’re young or up-and-coming. I don’t really need much for myself other than to just be comfortable and not stress over bills. I also wouldn’t mind doing some traveling and building a small house on land as far away from neighbors as possible. 
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Well, well, well. How appropriate since Lauren told everyone to “get it yourself”. Looks like they’ve done exactly that, at least in this instance.
Is this what Mom and Dad have been searching for popping in and out all weekend while on their “out of the country” excursion?
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I think this one was a given. This is information that they already have but just wanted to get it via official means so they could use it in court.
Now, I realize after having a judge like Taylor that even a given is a happy moment.
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There is still evidence not in the hands of all attorneys. Will KK/JK comply or not? Are they willing to risk it all by refusing to give up the recordings and mommy’s transcripts? What have they got to hide, I wonder?
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Is there proof that they even exist? Has MBs lawyers confirmed the existence or is it all based on posts online they think there are some?
Thanks all.
I am not even pretending to keep up anymore, and appreciate your reminders of who asked for what, from whom, when.
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SGF, through their attorney, has laid out the evidence they have in their pleadings, which are all listed in the original post, re: recordings Jonathan Kanarek/IM has.
Mr Deininger’s pleadings have shown evidence for the transcripts in their pleadings re: Kirby
Kanarek, including LK’s SafeSport report. (Pleadings also in original post)
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Deininger implies it in his filings when he mentions the SS summary as to why he needs the transcripts from KK. It was pretty clear that he was getting at the fact there were things attributed to being in transcripts that are not in the recordings available to him from the prosecution. So, either they were lies sent to SS to get MB in trouble or there are recordings that were not disclosed to MCPO.
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It’s just purely game playing to be involved in a suit, claim you have all sorts of EVIDENCE (as they liked to emphasize and capitalize), and then be difficult about giving it up. I mean, sure, you can make everyone go through all of the proper legal channels and do all of the things, but it does mean that the other side is spending more money. Which could be what they want; to bleed them dry. However, that can fail when a) you “lose” and have to pay some/all of their legal fees b) you “win” and want to collect all sorts of money from them that they no longer have c) they actually have deeper pockets then you.
The other thing is that when you haven’t much else to exist for, you’ll try to make others just as miserable as you are. It’s sick, the amount of enjoyment that is gotten out of it. It’s been that way since the beginning though, hasn’t it.
It’s always some BS though… Shopping lists…right.
Civil suits are often bitter though, and it’s not uncommon to make the other side jump through hoops, dot their i’s and cross their t’s, but there are pros and cons to that. I would say that if you have a good lawyer, then follow their advice, but I can’t say that LK has the best lawyer that money can buy. Just my personal opinion.
I do love when people(g) are aghast and make all sorts of excuses when their true actions and character are revealed during a lawsuit. C’mon, if you’re a shi**y person, you know it 
This is what you signed up for.
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