MB CIVIL SUIT UPDATE #10 K’s Request to Adjourn (delay) DENIED 11/01/22

[MorganSercu]

Shelly does Newark at 3 am?

[Sdel]

If she’s driving up in a mad dash from NC……maybe?

[MorganSercu]

So she may have gone the wrong way on the same street too? Pretty funny if that happened.

[KurPlexed]

@Knights_Mom

Consider the possibility that Taylor was contacted by someone with an agenda and warned it would be in his best interest to rule in a way not conducive to MBs immediate release. It seems clear that Taylor is being overly cautious for a reason of self preservation.

After reading the article on Greystone, I wonder about liability if something were to happen to MB (while at GS) considering rules have been ignored.

Sending a nonviolent patient to a facility known to be violent seems risky on the part of SofNj.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Simring testified that based on examination he thought MB was still suffering from delusions. That was taken into account. It’s the judge who determines whether the subject is a danger to himself or others, based on the expert testimony.

I don’t see where it says other information could not be taken into account.

People have explained to you numerous times the purpose of the Krol hearing is solely to determine danger. And they have posted repeatedly now information that clearly shows you are wrong about the judge going with the recommendations of an administrative panel bs a psychiatrist, never mind skipping over the legal requirement to reevaluate after three months.

How hard would it be to just gracefully admit you are wrong on this one and thank the posters for providing you with correct info?

[3PonyFarm]

It has to be a relief for him that he is at the next stage in the process to work towards his release. It would be wonderful if he progressed quickly enough for them to recommend an earlier release date.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@KurPlexed

Sending a nonviolent patient to a facility known to be violent seems risky on the part of SofNj.

Nonviolent? He shot and nearly killed someone.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Simring testified that based on examination he thought MB was still suffering from delusions. That was taken into account. It’s the judge who determines whether the subject is a danger to himself or others, based on the expert testimony.

I don’t see where it says other information could not be taken into account.

People have explained to you numerous times the purpose of the Krol hearing is solely to determine danger. And they have posted repeatedly now information that clearly shows you are wrong about the judge going with the recommendations of an administrative panel bs a psychiatrist, never mind skipping over the legal requirement to reevaluate after three months.

How hard would it be to just gracefully admit you are wrong on this one and thank the posters for providing you with correct info?

Oh, I agree that the Krol hearing is for the judge to determine whether or not MB was a danger to self or others.

Judge Taylor determined that he was a danger. MB committed a violent act, nearly killing someone while delusional, and the defense experts testified that in their opinion he was still not free of delusional thinking.

[LiberalSnowflake]

It’s probably already been posted, I’m still way behind, but MB has been moved …

[trubandloki]

It is so clear that some people simply refuse to understand what the rules actually are and to admit that they were ignored multiple places along the way.

[LiberalSnowflake]

Link to the go fund me and update by Lara is here …

Help Michael Barisone rebuild his life., organized by Lara Hausken Osborne

[Christa_P]

Good to hear he’s moved. I hope when he’s allowed to have day trips that one of his first trips is a visit to a friend’s barn where he can get some horse time.

[Warmblood1]

@DownYonder

@3PonyFarm

There was an update on the GFM that MB was moved to Greystone.

Yes, excellent news although I wish they would have provided him with some kind of onboarding literature so he knows what to expect regarding policies and procedures. I would think it could be of benefit to help incoming patients with the transition.

My experience is with 4 different inpatient psych facilities but none of them offered literature regarding policies and procedures or onboarding literature. Patients rely on staff for their assistance. Policies and procedures frequently change so facilities do not want to establish something conflicting in writing.

[eggbutt]

@3PonyFarm

It would be wonderful if he progressed quickly enough for them to recommend an earlier release date.

We know regardless if they recommend early release, Taylor will not agree to it in order to keep the Kanareks happy. Nothing will make me think any differently. Another judge might think differently.

[LilRanger]

@trubandloki

Any of the COTHers that work in the mental health field know why new arrivals are not given something that gives them information on how things are done there? That seems like a way to make these things more stressful for people, which I would think is not what they want.

There is orientation time, but no, it’s not a resort that has buckets of cash sitting around to pay for marketing. All the money comes from state coffers and there are not funded enough. Keeping staff is an issue right now, so many facilities aren’t at full capacity because they can’t staff all of the beds.

[trubandloki]

@LilRanger

@trubandloki

Any of the COTHers that work in the mental health field know why new arrivals are not given something that gives them information on how things are done there? That seems like a way to make these things more stressful for people, which I would think is not what they want.

There is orientation time, but no, it’s not a resort that has buckets of cash sitting around to pay for marketing. All the money comes from state coffers and there are not funded enough. Keeping staff is an issue right now, so many facilities aren’t at full capacity because they can’t staff all of the beds.

I was not talking about marketing…not sure where you got that from.

A think a bad copier version of basic procedures would save the staff that is over burdened a lot of frustration and time, on those patients who have the ability to follow something like that, which I get not all of them able to do.

[eggbutt]

@Omgitsme

“I have pictures” implies to me that she saw pictures but didn’t see LK herself.

Sorry OMG, you are mistaken. She did rush up with a companion and returned almost immediately when she wasn’t greeted like a long lost family member.

[Jealoushe]

Do you know what the range of rates might be?

[3PonyFarm]

If that did happen maybe a full out media blitz to expose Judge T’s behavior would be in order for MB’s family and friends to do.

[Omgitsme]

I am mistaken, yes. I didn’t want to go back and delete the comment since it’s been quoted.
I never mind admitting when I’m wrong.