MB Civil Trial: JK/KK Contempt of Court?

[Warmblood1]

@hut-ho78

You don’t have to believe me. Believe whatever you want. Please stop attacking me though.

Those pearls have got to be worn out by now.

No one is attacking you. You are participating in a conversation on a public forum. People are responding, quite patiently and kindly. That’s how it works. I don’t know what unkind things you have said based on responses and to have your posts edited by mods, but perhaps you could reciprocate the kindness. If you don’t want people to respond to your posts, perhaps simply not posting would solve that.

@Fiesta01

@erinmeri

But you’re an active shooter who made me flatline twice and on top of that you gaslit me. And then they cut me open stem to stern.

You forgot center of mass.

Hang on, I think it was “stem to stem,” too, right?

@DownYonder

Question that may or may not have been addressed previously on this or another thread (I can’t remember).

LK posted several times on SM that she knew that MB had received a big insurance check (and insinuated that he was engaged in insurance fraud).

How did she know he had received it? Did he tell her directly? Did she see it arrive in the mail? Did she see the check laying around in his office? Did she hear MB talk about it? And if the latter, where was he and who was he talking to? And did LK (or RG) personally hear that conversation (were in earshot), or did they hear MB talking about it via one of their recording devices?

[Edited for clarity and to fix a typo.]

Honestly, I think she just assumed he was getting a big check. I don’t believe that’s how it frequently works due to (other people) committing insurance fraud. We had a pipe burst under our house and insurance paid the companies directly for their services. We never received a check to deposit and then pay the bills.

[ekat]

That one is good, indeed. If I had to pick a favorite, I’m going with this:

[McGurk]

Oh, snap!

I would totally hire that law firm.

[eggbutt]

My word!!! So much to unpack in this filing!!! They DID have to compel her to testify in the criminal trial!!!

I can’t wait to hear how some spin all this in Kanarek’s favor!!!

[MHM]

@Maria

SGF is seeking to treat Plaintiff like every other Plaintiff who files a lawsuit. By refusing
to appear for an in-person deposition, Kanarek is seeking special treatment. Kanarek is not
above the law, and she does not get to re-write the New Jersey Rules of Court for her own
convenience. If she does not want to appear for deposition, then she should dismiss her lawsuit.

Again, the pattern of behavior similar to a former politician is just striking.

[ekat]

@McGurk

Oh, snap!

I would totally hire that law firm.

Me too!

[smoofox]

Thanks for that amazing update, @ekat!

And also… thanks to everyone for the kind thoughts about my Soapsuds Apocalypse. All seems well this morning. The floor seems to have survived as well. I gave my mom a hug and tried to tell myself she is 89 and I may not have her for much longer, so I must pull up my big girl panties and nod and smile and carry on… and understand that she just thinks she is helping me with her observations…

But she did get to hear a whole new side to my vocabulary.

[ekat]

@smoofox

Thanks for that amazing update, @ekat!

And also… thanks to everyone for the kind thoughts about my Soapsuds Apocalypse. All seems well this morning. The floor seems to have survived as well. I gave my mom a hug and tried to tell myself she is 89 and I may not have her for much longer, so I must pull up my big girl panties and nod and smile and carry on… and understand that she just thinks she is helping me with her observations…

But she did get to hear a whole new side to my vocabulary.

You’re welcome. And I’m very glad things are looking up for you this morning.

[lazaret]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, we know he chose not to testify because his lawyer didn’t want him to face questions from the prosecution.

We know no such thing.

[eggbutt]

I am reeling over all that has come out in legal filings in the past week! Hold on ladies, the ride is going to get bumpier for the Kanarek family!!! Seems they messed with the wrong people…at last. I love the smell of a good comeuppance in the morning!

@hut-ho78 @CurrentlyHorseless what say ye now???

38,000+ pages…guarantee there must be some CoTH posts mingled in!!!

I am giddy with joy!!!

[MHM]

@eggbutt

38,000+ pages…

I am giddy with joy!!!

I’ll bet the judge is less so. Lol.

[MorganSercu]

@DreadPirateRoberts

I think this new information can only be enhanced by your thoughts. Pretty please.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@ekat

38,000 MORE SM posts?? Failed mediation?

I’m thinking the 38,000 must include the entirety of her COTH posts on a number of Barisone related threads.

Maybe I’m wrong… but wow. That’s a lot for them to wade through.

Q&A during her deposition about all these social media posts? THAT will be brutal.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

Question that may or may not have been addressed previously on this or another thread (I can’t remember).

LK posted several times on SM that she knew that MB had received a big insurance check (and insinuated that he was engaged in insurance fraud).

How did she know he had received it? Did he tell her directly? Did she see it arrive in the mail? Did she see the check laying around in his office? Did she hear MB talk about it? And if the latter, where was he and who was he talking to? And did LK (or RG) personally hear that conversation (were in earshot), or did they hear MB talking about it via one of their recording devices?

[Edited for clarity and to fix a typo.]

She said she was present when the insurance adjuster came to inspect the damage from the broken pipes. That could have raised the idea of an insurance payment in her mind.

[ekat]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I’m thinking the 38,000 must include the entirety of her COTH posts on a number of Barisone related threads.

Maybe I’m wrong… but wow. That’s a lot for them to wade through.

Q&A during her deposition about all these social media posts? THAT will be brutal.

Probably her YouTube postings make an appearance.

[MorganSercu]

Nice turn of phrase. Reading between the lines is super funny.

SGF knows all various types of media can easily be displayed at deposition in its counsel’s office. It cannot be assured of same at Plaintiff’s counsel’s office. (Bold font is my own addition - MS)

[lazaret]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Maybe I’m wrong… but wow. That’s a lot for them to wade through.

I can think of more than a few litigators who would be dancing in the streets with typed versions of events as conveyed by the alleged victim contemporaneously with the event, most if not all of which differ in a meaningful way from each other.

It’s a lot to wade through but it is immensely preferable to the inverse, which is having basically nothing.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@lazaret

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, we know he chose not to testify because his lawyer didn’t want him to face questions from the prosecution.

We know no such thing.

Sorry, your honor. I’m not a member of the jury and I, just me, I assume Bilinkas advised him to decline to testify so they he didn’t not have to answer questions from the prosecution.

At one point a Bilinkas said to the judge in a sidebar “I can’t put my client on the stand”, and the judge retorted, “Of course you can. You choose not to.”

Do you disagree that we know that he declined to testify? Why would he miss the opportunity to describe his state in mind, his terror, unless testifying exposed him to …

[lazaret]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Do you disagree that we know that he declined to testify?

That is not what you said. You alleged, via your own inference, a reason for the action.

I see it exclusively as the defendant asserting his right not to testify in his own defense. Many defendants do for any myriad of reasons.

You are correct that you can assume that doing so would not be beneficial to his case. Considering the defendant is confirmed to have no recollection of the event of which he was accused, there is nothing he can offer in testimony, and it is entirely plausible that it has nothing to do with fear or diction or keeping sordid secrets.

Either way, it is not legally or really in any other interpretation an admission of guilt, as you are attempting to make it.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@lazaret

I can think of more than a few litigators who would be dancing in the streets with typed versions of events as conveyed by the alleged victim contemporaneously with the event, most if not all of which differ in a meaningful way from each other.

It’s a lot to wade through but it is immensely preferable to the inverse, which is having basically nothing.

No kidding. It’s going to be a game of 99 ways to impeach her credibility…

So explain to me how the potential legal costs involved in this might play out…

Specifically, if SGF’s attorneys spend hours and hours in preparation for the deposition going over the thousands of pages of social posts, like a ridiculous amount of time dealing with all the nonsense, and then the deposition of LK takes days and days because of all the Q&A related to her voluminous social media posts about SGF, the settlement she’s positive she will receive, how the Lundberg’s really love her and wanted her to stay on there, etc etc etc… and then LK loses on the merits of all her claims against SGF… will LK end up eating all of SGFs legal expenses?

Just curious.