He’s making it really easy for the judge to pick his argument. Laying out all the steps and reasoning means the judge doesn’t have to do that work himself and can confidently agree with you, because you’ve given him the underpinnings of the argument.
Nagel hasn’t done that, so it’s harder for the judge to agree with him, because then the judge has to refute all those points by Denninger! I’ll bet Nagel won’t have a good, detailed form of order for the judge to sign, either.
If both attorneys share this trait, it makes them even. And many litigators are good speakers and not always great writers. Even in law you gravitate to your strengths.
Seems like that would be a detriment in this case since the judge is not hearing oral arguments…
Bingo
Im no judge, and not in NJ, but I couldn’t even tell what Nagel was pleading.
Probably not based on his filing. This is what he filed:
It seems to me that MB has a good combination. Deininger has a lovely writing and trial questioning style and we have already seen Bilinkas’ oratory style in action via the powerful opening/closing statement in the criminal trial.
This is correct and kind of par for the course. Saying that about a currently seated jury, even if not your case, is a disrespect that might not fly - the jury is held in pretty high esteem, generally - but once they have been discharged and the case is over, or if it hasn’t started yet, you can say all kinds of BS and the only real consequence is whether people like you or not.
You’re right about that.most folks can’t afford two attorneys working on a case like this, from different law firms, I mean. He’s not going to regret spending that money.
Man, what a mess for her. Although she should not be surprised she would be subpoenaed for this case.
And after ruminating a bit, I have to say that not responding to the subpoena puts her daughter at a disadvantage, and could possibly effect what weight the jury gives her evidence.
It’s my belief that they truly thought that it would be a given. Found guilty at criminal trial, settle or move for summary judgement in civil case, collect from any and all available insurance policies. She thought they’d be meek lambs and come running with a settlement offer to get it to go away. Maybe she thought she’d get possession of the farm, who knows.
I think you nailed it, based on her sm posts.
indeed it does. Failure to respond is presumed to have a reason and such presumptions are allowed to be explored (for the benefit of others reading). Why would the plaintiff’s own mother not wish to comply? hmmm indeed.
I assume a “it was someone else behind the keyboard using my login information” type of response would make things more difficult, not less?
In my humble opinion that would make it worse because she ignored the subpoena. She should have filed a motion to quash and used that as her reason, if that’s her reason.
My guess (from reading the posts here) is that the apple/tree thing applies and the mother thinks none of this hassle should be happening and they should just hand over the money and leave her alone.
Her criminal record shows the same - I am special and no matter what I should not get in trouble - theory to life.
I also agree. I don’t think anyone on that side of the fence thought they’d be here now.
You know, I tend to forget about her arrest record.
I honestly don’t see any good outcomes here.
Some other dude did it with my login….begs the question of who was using the login.
Not relevant/just use the recordings from the criminal trial/harassment…….takes a chance of making the judge mad and better hope whatever is attributed to a recording matches what can be found in a recording.
I had them at one point, but no longer have them……begs the question of lying then, now, or who does have them considering the recent postings of having sent the transcripts to AK and 48 hours….
I am genuinely surprised to hear that Seeker1 is verified as Kirby Kanarek. I did not believe that a functional parent of a long time problem adult child would incriminate herself to that extent on SM.
At this point the combined activities of the whole KTeam is adding up to make them look worse and worse. Both parents can be shown to be enabling LK’s behavior before the shooting. LK herself said that she discussed the illegal tapes with her father and got his OK, and KK says that she transcribed them, presumably with JKs knowledge. The tapes were primarily used by LK for harassment before and after the shooting.
The more the parents are shown to be actively enabling LK’s bad behavior, the more the whole family looks like grifters.
Now what happens? You launch a damages suit before the criminal trial. By the time the criminal trial is over, your team has managed to really destroy their credibility in multiple ways. After the trial, your team continues to do the worst possible things on SM. And it’s a team, because we have KK, LK and RG posting in various places, as well as various alters on some sites. Basically you’ve done very serious damage to your case, and your daughter is quite willing to throw her own parents under the bus. But you’re deeply sunk emotionally and I assume financially into this case, and have lost perspective on how you look to the world.
I can see a bit of panic setting in as the actual court dates draw closer and reality starts to intrude on the revenge fantasy and bluster.
Hmmm….begs a few other questions if you ask me….
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