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He’s a communist.
Heard he kicks small puppies too, esp the cute ones.[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Ok so you go on for 13 pages here about why someone who jost won Olympic Gold for your country did not manage to hold his hat to his left shoulder righthanded while putting it over his heart at the same time? This is scary. I am out.
Correct my grammar one more time Wellspotted and you’ll need medical intervention to remove my Ariats from your behind… (semi-serious, tho I think you are kidding) Aside from pointing out the occaisional post that is so poorly written that it’s almost impossible to read, I find the grammar Nazis unbearable. This is not the SAT’s or a graduate program at Yale. It will not kill you to read a less than perfectly worded post. I don’t always put the right punctuation in the right place and I’m comma happy. oh well. deal with it.
I even clicked my heels and this is still here.
but… otoh…
This is actually still a free country. We still have a right to be stupid in publick.
Actually, he didn’t do it the whole time. Yes, I did watch. No, I don’t have it memorized, but I do not actualy recall him placing his hand on his heart.
I’m not saying you are wrong, I’m saying we are both right. But I do think that it shows that this is the freekin’ Olympics, he’s got that bright shiney gold thingy around his neck and shock/gasp, maybe he had like, 6 zillion things flying around in his head. It’s a stupid, small, petty thing that we cant even agree upon as being right or wrong.
You want disrespectful?? I’m not all that zen with the track-n-field athletes using the flag of thier country as a cape when they win. Yuck. That is NOT how one should handle a flag.
Just watched the medal ceremony, and no, McLain did not cover his heart with his hand…just clearing that up for you two.
Yeah, like I said, I didn’t recall it. That would be because it didn’t happen.
sigh.
clicks heels furiously
This thread appalls me too.
I say they were all in uniform anyway.
I saw the ceremony (how wonderful that they took the time to show it on the broadcast) and I thought they were nothing but respectful, penitent, proud, and filled with awe to see the flag raise for them.
And I think the OP should watch more medal ceremonies.
Congratulations to McLain, Laura, Will, and Beezie. That was three monster courses and they were the very best in the world.
WoW!! Just watched the “rewind” – I’ve VERY proud of our team. They rocked.
And, THIS is the dumbest thread ever. Can we make “Darwin Awards” for threads?
Seb 
[QUOTE=springer;3454756]
You’re kidding, right? Are you also one of those people who protests Christmas?
And BTW… Andrew Shephard WASN’T a real president. I hate to break it to you!!![/QUOTE]
Oh for crap’s sake! How about buying a clue in American (which, one must note, is NOT world history) 101. The “under God” bit wasn’t added until the 1950s. DEAL.
When the global (and credit-card carrying) Christians of this world want to discuss the over-commercialization of Jesus’ birth and put away their plastic and renounce their stock dividends in the very same retail market, yeah, well, then the rest of us will listen. Until then … pfft. 
And to easily refute your other (silly) obsveration, of course, BTW, Coreene et al know that AS isn’t the real deal. Oh, would be that he were!!
To the OP: There are many, many things about McLain Ward that I wish were different. His ability to ride this wondrous mare, where it landed him and his reaction on the medal podium? Not so much. Whether he put his hand over heart in a gold-medal ceremony is really not that important to this daughter, niece, cousin of several well-decorated members of the military, including at least one SEAL and one Green Beret – who was long ago taught that one placed one’s hand over ones’s heart for the Pledge and stood at attention for the anthem.
No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God. -George H.W. Bush
Almost makes ya wanna protest Christmas.
A little history lesson.
One hundred years ago the opening ceremony of the 1908 Olympic Games in London was the first modern Olympics where teams marched in behind their country’s flags. It was the international convention at that time for a nation’s flag to be dipped as a mark of respect when paraded in front of another nation’s head of state.
The U.S. teams flag bearer did not dip the Stars and Stripes in front of King Edward VII. His Majesty and most of Great Britain felt highly insulted by the blatant lack of respect.
You can read more about this and subsequent flag incidents here.
So you flag-flapping Americans were the instigators of using a flag for political purposes in the Olympics!
It’s rather depressing to me that Americans get more emotional over the flag than you do over the Constitution, a very significant amendment to which protects these discussions.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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Maybe it’s just me being a fussy old woman, but I’m very patriotic.
In all the pictures I’ve seen, Mclain is the only one without his hand over his heart during the National Anthem.
I didn’t get to see the actual ceremony - did anyone notice?
Anyone close enough to him to give him a little lesson on proper behavior during the National Anthem?[/QUOTE]
“little lesson”? I think shock therapy would be appropriate. Or a vacation to a Gulag camp? I bet he is a secret muslim who hates America, why else wouldnt he place his hand over his heart during the Anthem. Dang, I bet he votes for Obama.
Here is a man who is standing on a podium having won a medal for his country. What have YOU done for your country lately?
I mean, seriously, this is what you concern yourself with when there is so much to be pleased with, or to be worried about in the world today? Where someone’s hand is during a national anthem? Do you mean to say the guy is not as patriotic as you are? Do you understand how utterly dumb that implication is?
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No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God. -George H.W. Bush
Almost makes ya wanna protest Christmas.[/QUOTE]
SNORK! And precisely illustrates why – among many, many illustrations – no Bush has ever garnered my vote. Why, the entire family’s failure to grasp the fundamentals of the Constitution (although, granted, that would require the ability to read for comprehension) leaves me positively aghasted!!
Honestly … in this great, wide world of unsolvable problems, people have their knickers in twists over whether or not Mclain showed acceptable patriotism? << Shakes head.>> Like I said earlier, there are things about him I wish I could change (not that he gives a rat’s patootie about what I think), but this isn’t it. As I type this, I’m watching a TV show about horrifically abused horses. Now THAT’S something about which our knickers should be twisted!!
never mind his right hand - are there any reports on what his left hand was doing? Was it handing out communist pamphlets to the public during the anthem?
Honestly, this is the funniest train wreck of a thread I’ve seen…
I’m excited the Americans won. Awesome - hurrah for them. I hope maybe this will convince NBC & Co to put more equestrian on the tv in future…
[QUOTE=Ambrey;3455242]
No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God. -George H.W. Bush
Almost makes ya wanna protest Christmas.[/QUOTE]
Can you provide a reference to this quote? It certainly sounds like something he would say, but I would like more than “I read this quote on COTH” before I read it to my Bush-supporting husband.
This thread stinks of McCarthyism. Which has somehow become acceptable during this administration. Makes me ill.
never mind his right hand - are there any reports on what his left hand was doing?
:lol::lol::lol:
[QUOTE=Coreene;3453881]
From Andrew Shepherd, my favorite American President:
America isn’t easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it’s gonna put up a fight. It’s gonna say ‘You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.’
You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can’t just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the “land of the free.”[/QUOTE]
Coreene, he’s my favourite president too, and that is one of my favourite movies.
Frankly, I have a stitch in my side from reading all of these comments. I don’t even know all of the WORDS to my national anthem, nor do I give a monkey’s, really. Make of that what you will.
I don’t get it. Does this mean that this poster is a jingoistic neoconservative? Or does she mean that she thinks George dubbya’s comment is unamerican? I can’t figure this post out!
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Can you provide a reference to this quote? It certainly sounds like something he would say, but I would like more than “I read this quote on COTH” before I read it to my Bush-supporting husband.
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Don’t hold your breath for a source.
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This thread stinks of McCarthyism. Which has somehow become acceptable during this administration. Makes me ill.
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Stinks of jingoism. Thread stinks ofIntolerance. Here’s some blatant bigotry:
Originally Posted by [B]Ruby G. Weber[/B] <a href="http://chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?p=3453951#post3453951">[IMG]http://chronicleforums.com/Forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif)</a>
(I recently witnessed, at the opening of a Grand Prix a group of Hispanics chatting and beer drinking during the playing of our Anthem. I so wanted to say something.)
The whole thread makes me anxious. I agree with Coreene’s quote. That sums up american values that I honor. I am so tired of shaming, judgemental, holier than thou crazies like in this thread.
Posted by Coreene: America isn’t easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it’s gonna put up a fight. It’s gonna say ‘You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.’
You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can’t just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the “land of the free.”
Mod, please close this platform for jingoistic, neoconservative, bigoted intolerance and elitism. Thanks.
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I am sure there are many that have things to say that Mclain has done that are FAR more offensive then hand on heart.
Just visit Horseshowspy[/QUOTE]
Wow, I just looked at the site briefly, I couldn’t see topics since I’m not a member, but just the descriptions of each forum! So catty! “It’s anonymous, so say what you like!”.
I’m not going to read through all 14 pages of this, but shouldn’t everyone take off their hats?Including women?
