Medina Spirit fails drug test

I’m weary of seeing the comments that MS “shouldn’t be disqualified because betamethasone doesn’t make them run faster/longer/isn’t performance-enhancing.”

No, it doesn’t/isn’t, correct. Neither is cobra venom, lidocaine, or shock wave therapy, to name a few others that are either banned outright on the backside or tightly regulated. What all have in common is that they allow horses to run on an injury that just might be approaching catastrophic status. I don’t want my horse in the starting gate with another in the field in danger of breaking down and taking out every horse and jockey behind him…

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I am a little surprised at all the people on this thread who are ok with joint injections for a young 3yo colt.

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I think it makes sense since he had Otomax applied the day before the Derby, and Im assuming (you know what they say about assuming) that they havent used it since, which would likely give that amount time to clear.

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I think most of us would agree injecting a joint three days before a major stakes races wouldn’t be a ‘best management practice’ but one would also think that the trainer of the barn the horse is racing out of might also want to know something more about what some medications do and what vet treatments a horse under their ultimate care is receiving. :roll_eyes:

IMO, if one wants all the glory and the money (BB) then one should also take full responsibility (BB). No? (yeah, rhetorical question… snigger).

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I know, right? Also is this commonly repeated on these young horses to make them race ready?
Reading up on the use of this drug shows the warning about bone deterioration and stress fractures? I’ll forever remember this warning when I see race horses break down on the track
and get carted off to be euthanized. Who says horse racing isn’t abusive?

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Do you really think that Baffert is being honest about how that betamethasone got into the horse?

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I would be surprised if BB had more than 100 horses total in all his barns. Yes, he does run horses at different tracks around the country but he’s primarily a So Cal trainer and for many of his horses, they ship in for a big race or two and then ship back to So Cal.

He’s getting no sympathy from me.

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In a word, No.

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For me, and slightly getting off into the weeds… this characterization bothers me. Horses at most tracks are not ‘carted’ off to be euthanized. They are usually given analgesics and pain medications on track before they are even loaded into the equine ambulance. Those are special built horse trailers with floors that lower to allow the horse to walk in with a minimal amount of effort and supports to help the horse stand. Diagnostics are performed back at the barn before a decision is made to euthanize (the exception is often a severe, catastrophic compound fracture where the decision to euthanize can be done on track as the injury is not a surgical candidate.)

Are some breakdowns caused by meds and treatments such as this, I’m sure. IMO, there are trainers who employ meds like these and those who don’t.

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It isn’t the racing, it is the treatment of the horses as commodity.
For an industry that couldn’t care less what is racing. It could be dogs, cockroaches, snails, or seniors to the early bird tapioca bar.

If the colts sell it is a win for the farms, not having winners in their own silks.
a 4 yo is old.
So we milk the most out of the young horses.

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and most of the horses aren’t worth the economy behind lengthy rehab, thus ‘carted off’
I love racing, but one has to face the fact that the current system isn’t designed with the welfare of horses in mind.

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Per the thought about lengthy rehab not being effective for most horses, I am stupidly baffled about human nature and the adverse causal effect of higher purses for cheap claimers. I know that has been put out there in at least one study-- but I would think if you have a cheap claimer that can win you what in the past would be a small stake’s purse, would you not treat that horse like a stake horse? Is there another (less greedy) cause for the study(s) conclusion?(Which I have not read by the way-bad me!)

Interesting presentation on Paulick Friday Show:


It is worth the listen. Dr. Papp, the veterinarian interviewed, made many interesting points.
She also pointed out that the betamethasone in the ointment and that in the joint injectable are not the same. (I don’t remember exactly how.). She speculated that it would be possible to distinguish between the two in the test samples. Interesting thought.
Of course neither type should have been in MS’ blood.
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Thoughtful piece on Bafferts situation, and it’s effect on horse racing.

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That ought to make Baffert queasy.

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I really dont know. I just cant believe he would be so stupid to not know whats being applied to his Derby entrant every.single.day. Maybe he is that stupid. I just dont know what to believe anymore.

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Bob Baffert has declared himself “the face of horse racing.” This article discusses the inability of racing to police itself and the lack of consequences for drug violations. State racing commissions are full of people with a conflicts of interest and they wield great power. While many with deep pockets are supporting a government authority over racing, pushback s coming from many owners and trainers. From the article:

Each racing state has its own oversight commission, and the panels are often deeply compromised. Last month, a year after two of Baffert’s horses tested positive for lidocaine following major races in Arkansas, the state racing commission upheld the ruling but dismissed the penalties, which included the forfeiture of hundreds of thousands of dollars in prize money.

The chairman of the Arkansas Racing Commission is Alex Lieblong, one of the state’s most prominent racehorse owners. Among the trainers Lieblong employs is Hall of Famer Steven Asmussen, who has a history of medication violations pages long and is to compete in the Preakness with a horse named Midnight Bourbon.

Another trainer in the Preakness, Robertino Diodoro, who races long-shot Keepmeinmind, is competing while under a suspended sentence handed down last year by the Minnesota Racing Commission for two positive drug tests.

In the wake of federal indictments of 27 people involved in thoroughbred racing last year — including two leading trainers — on charges related to performance-enhancing drugs, Congress passed the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act. The new law authorized the creation of a government authority under the Federal Trade Commission responsible for proposing and enforcing health and safety standards in thoroughbred racing across the country.

Already, several state racing commissions and various horsemen’s groups representing owners and trainers have filed federal lawsuits challenging the law’s constitutionality. Racing is being dragged kicking and screaming toward a restoration of public confidence.

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You’re right–it’s tough to believe he was so stupid as to be using a banned substance every day for the last 30 days and not know about it. If you assume he’s not actually that dumb, what’s left out there?

Does it make more sense to you if he DID know about the betamethasone in the horse, but knew that he absolutely wasn’t allowed to do what he did, so had to scramble for a plausible-ish benign reason for the horse testing hot?

I think that’s where a lot of us are. It makes more sense that he tapped a joint, didn’t think he’d get caught, and had to make up a cover story that casts him in a less shitty light than “I tapped this horse a few days ago, oops.” Especially given the level of drug in the horse. If a joint injection = 21 picograms per mL 72 hours post, it’s really, really, really unlikely that a skin ointment will yield that same amount, even if it’s used every day.

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I’ve seen hunter/jumpers, one of which was a zone horse of the year, get tapped on a regular basis. High level competition in any discipline is tough on a horse, so save the piety.

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I know of a lot of show horses, in different disciplines, that are injected on the regular. They range from lower level show horses who are packing amateurs to World Grand Champions.

I do think that having to inject a young horse is unfortunate, and somewhat worriesome.

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