Medina Spirit fails drug test

I thought Dr Scollay was pretty clear that 21picograms would have been consistent with an intrarticular joint injection within 72 hours but that she was in no way stating that Medina Spirit had an interarticular joint injection within 72 hours.

If the betamethasone did come from an interarticular joint injection, I sure as heck hope a licensed vet did that injection and that it was documented. Undocumented procedures in joints scare the crap out of me (had a good friend’s horse ultimately loose his life over a hock injection that got infected :frowning: ).

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What I would find interesting, if the expense of such a study weren’t prohibitive and impractical, would be to quantify the serum levels of all the components of topically applied Otomax over a period of time, then look for the levels of those in the split sample and see if their ratios werecomparable.

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But if I understand the rules correctly, it doesn’t really matter what the method of absorption was. No betamethazone means zero zip none.

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Love this article from PR a good read… asks many of the same questions we’ve been asking but in a more public forum.

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/show-us-the-paper-bob-records-to-back-up-bafferts-story-remain-a-matter-of-trust/

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I still can’t get over how little he seems to know about his Derby horse. He had to “investigate” to find out that the horse he trains was being treated for a fungal infection? Bob is a pretty hands off type trainer isn’t he?

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Maybe it helps him with the ‘I dunno’ that he seems to use a lot with all the different ‘contamination’ issues his barn seems to have… ? :roll_eyes: :rofl:

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I don’t know how well the hands off style will go down with the owners that are paying him to train their horses.
I guess it’s not going down well with MyRacehorse, since they’ve pulled their horses from him.

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My personal opinion is that part of why Spendthift/MRH pulled their horses is due to the micro-share set up and SEC review and approval.

Yes, owning a horse is risky but keeping a horse in training with a trainer that is risking both purse monies and breeding value is probably a bad SEC move.

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I’m sure you’re right. Any entity that is required to strictly abide by the rules can’t be blamed for running in the opposite direction.

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When you ‘train’ hundreds of horses at different tracks around the country, and going to sales, and keeping up with the people bringing your young horses up, and talking to your clients, and holding court every morning for hours on the rail during training at the racetrack for adoring reporters, as Baffert so famously does, you really aren’t training the horses. But that goes both ways: the assistants running the barn should be getting the glory for the wins, they’re the ones doing the training.

One day I witnessed a BNT with a deservedly great reputation watching his horses on the rail one busy morning. He had no idea who they were—his assistants were radioing him who was working, how far they were going, who was riding who. He started to go back to the barn at one point and somebody ran over to wave him back because he had another set to go. I mean, he had no idea what was going on. He could only half watch anyway, as he was fielding phone calls the whole time from others. I kind of felt sorry for him, at that point I think you’re a victim of your own success.

I’m not excusing anything, just to be clear. You court publicity, you get the glory, you take the heat.

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I saw something similar…Couple’s house burned down. Upside down on mortgage. Miraculously all the animals (including a pig) miraculously escaped in spite of no one home. More curious was they rented a barn on the property next to mine a couple weeks earlier. Filled it with furniture/boxes (before the fire). Even more curious, BIL was a firefighter.

Last I heard, no payout. Filed for bankruptcy and divorced.

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I realize that he has to depend on assistants, but you’d think he’d check on his Derby horse at least once and notice the fungal infection. He is supposed to be a horseman.

He just seems so far removed from a horse that is 12-1 in the Derby.

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I remember reading somewhere about a guy who had a horse with Baffert. After a short time, he realized his horse was with an assistant, and that Baffert only pays attention to the big deal horses.

What does it say that he is so desperate for an excuse that he’ll say that he didn’t know about his Derby entrant having “fungus”, or being treated with something that would get him spun?

To me it says that he is digging deep. Really deep.

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What vet would prescribe an ointment that contains Betamethasone to a Derby horse?
I’m thinking that perhaps it wasn’t prescribed.

If the horse had joint injections it wouldn’t be documented or be done on the up and up. It’s against the rules.

Incompetence or cheating. Those are the only choices here.

Has anyone noticed that Baffert keeps on about only 21 picograms being in the horse, when it’s actually 21 picograms per ml of blood, so much more than 21 picograms in the horse.

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In one article they cited research that found that 21 picograms would be consistent with the amount of betamethasone found after a fetlock injection THREE days prior. Not saying that it was a fetlock that was injected but BB harping on the picogram measurement is just taking advantage of the fact that the general public has poor scientific literacy.

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So (apparently) does Baffert.

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So now MS tested negative on May 6th and the results of tests drawn on May 10th and May 11th will be released later today.


I guess if those test are positive, the horse will be out of the Preakness.
Is it odd that he was + on May 1 and - on May 6th? Or did the stuff clear?

Weirder and weirder.

D. Wayne Lukas threw his $0.02 in yesterday by suggesting that the sample that got MS popped after the Derby should have been discarded.

Another member of the old boys’ network showing his true colors, I suppose?

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Just another thought from the outside of the fence. If they did inject MS’s joints that close to the race, is that a best management practice? I know that we never worked a horse that hard that quickly after joint injections. It seems to me that if I was injecting the joints on a three year old- granted a top-tier race horse colt- I wouldn’t want the world to know that was how we do do it 'round here…

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there are plenty of people you drop a bet on a horse they never heard of because they like the trainer.

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