Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[MHM]

@ekat

Her credit card statements may already be covered under that whole financial disclosure they requested due to that loss of income claim.

Is there any indication she has provided that financial information yet?

[ekat]

@Angela_Freda

Didn’t she say she hustled down to Home Depot to buy those, or was that for the smoke detectors for the house after Fire Marshall sent them packing?

Now, that I do not remember for sure.

[DownYonder]

Circling back to Judge Sceusi. It appears that he is no longer on the list of judges, which was updated on 1/3/2023. I wonder if that means he retired (again) at the end of 2022, and that is why there is now a new judge.

Whatever the reason, I bet he is glad he doesn’t have to deal with this case anymore!

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[ekat]

@MHM

Is there any indication she has provided that financial information yet?

That’s the thing - we’ll only hear about it if it becomes subject of a court doc. So, maybe?

[MHM]

@DownYonder

Whatever the reason, I bet he is glad he doesn’t have to deal with this case anymore!

Right?

I don’t know what his last case was before this one, but I can’t imagine this would be the one you would want to remember as the final case of your career on the bench.

[trubandloki]

Thank you for looking into this @DownYonder!

That makes sense, that he retired again. He was hired back for a certain amount of time (maximum) to help them catch up from the covid backlog.

[Sdel]

I will say, GAS got put to work very quickly. I do wonder if he has even received the 14,000+ pages of social media directed at MB yet.

[3PonyFarm]

Maybe thats what he meant when he said it was a substantial file.

[eggbutt]

@Sdel

So, if they are talking about a phone video, then it must be on a device that wasn’t collected or they must have been deleted before it was collected.

Circle back to August 8, 2019 and the frantic, urgent dash by RG and JK to obtain something from the house and barn! The only items the keystone kops collected is what the Kanareks told them to collect. Even Schellhorn was never privy to all the evidence that should have been available!

[Fiesta01]

Totally normal reaction. Keep busy with other things to keep your mind off it. You’ll be fine. {{{Hugs}}}

[SpicyPRE]

This is what I find reprehensible. A citizen has the right to expect a thorough and unbiased investigation. An investigator should follow the evidence to where it leads. Its obvious that here this is not what happened.

[Sdel]

@SpicyPRE

A citizen has the right to expect a thorough and unbiased investigation. An investigator should follow the evidence to where it leads. Its obvious that here this is not what happened.

Alas, as the police successfully argued……the courts have found that we do not have this right. We only have the right to a “fair trial” where this lack of investigation, possible bias, and where only a portion of the evidence may be allowed to be used. Sucks to be you if the police can successfully convince a jury to convict on biased, un-investigated, or only half the story claims.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless, my question must have gotten lost in the other posts. I truly want to hear what your thoughts are on Jonathan Karnarek (@Inigo-montoya) ignoring this second subpoena.

[Einhorn]

@rothmpp

The Ks are probably contemplating what will hurt more - the potential fine for destroying evidence or potentially losing the civil case. Especially if the recordings do not paint LK in a flattering light.

They’ve also got to factor in if the actual evidence is worse than spoliation, since a finding of spoliation means the other parties can dictate just how bad those videos, transcripts, and recordings are…

[ohnoO]

@Angela_Freda

Didn’t she say she hustled down to Home Depot to buy those, or was that for the smoke detectors for the house after Fire Marshall sent them packing?

I don’t remember a trip to Home Depot, but IIRC, the smoke detectors just had to be re-wired—no need for new ones.

RG just re-wired them without an electricians license—easy peasy!

Didn’t she accuse MB of ripping them out?

[SpicyPRE]

Makes my head explode. How is a fair trial even possible when the evidence has been cherry picked? I recognize that this is a rhetorical question and the reason for the lawsuit. Its truly hard to accept.

[eggbutt]

Does anyone know the Kanarek’s next out-of-the-country immediate travel plans yet? You know, one of their trademark tactics to avoid responding to subpoenaes, depositions and the like.

Maybe, just maybe, they are in FL watching daughter dearest finally compete!! Nah, that is too far fetched to consider.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

I also do not see how the videos they are requesting play into these pursuits? Can you explain that @CurrentlyHorseless?

Thank you for reminding me that SGF has a cross complaint against RC as well as MB, @trubandloki. I had forgotten that.

That dovetails nicely with Sdel’s suggestion that the video in question is the security camera footage of RC entering the farmhouse on Aug 6, in conjunction with either the building department inspection or the eviction.

RC acting as the landlord, or on behalf of MB, either one, would serve the purpose of SGF in establishing that it was MB and/or RC who entered the agreement for LK to live there, and not SGF, LLC. In other words, it would serve to establish their cross complaint against MB and RC.

[yaya]

Can’t be competing, she still hasn’t done SafeSport yet.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

That dovetails nicely with Sdel’s suggestion that the video in question is the security camera footage of RC entering the farmhouse on Aug 6, in conjunction with either the building department inspection or the eviction.

Maybe. I guess that will depend on where in the house the incident occurred. If it was a main room of the house (that MB owned), it’s not likely enough to legally establish agency for liability…