Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@Knights_Mom

I have seen many arrests for LK. I have them saved. They can be produced

I don’t have the NJ data saved, and don’t have time to dig through the NJ court system database right now… Do you mind sharing the one related to burglary in NJ? CH seems intent on pulling the moderators into this and trying to get the thread shut down or something.

I’m asking the moderators to clarify the rule that a poster cannot anonymously accuse someone of having committed a felony without documenting the accusation in the public record.

Your saying that LK has a “lengthy criminal record” that includes burglary is accusing her of having been convicted of burglary.

I’m not trying to get the thread shut down. I’m asking the moderators to enforce or clarify the rule on a poster making accusations of criminal acts anonymously without providing documentation from the public record.

[Sdel]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

But it’s 100% a FACT that LK was arrested for burglary in NJ in the mid aughts. Who she was burglaring and why, I don’t know. People did indeed speculate it was Kirby. I have no idea though. I just know that she was arrested, had to post a hefty bail, and it took years to close out the case.

It seems like there was also a warrant issued…

[Tarlo_Farm]

We can simply adjust to saying LK has a lengthy ARREST record.
I’m almost 65 and I have lived an occasionally very exciting life on the edge of many illegal activities. I don’t have a lengthy arrest record.

As I suppose no one else here has either.

I was also married, for a very short time, to someone who, as the phrase goes; would argue with a fencepost. I suspect CH is that kind of person. They are exhausting to be around and typically have few close friends.

[Mondo]

@CurrentlyHorseless

is accusing her of having been convicted of burglary.

No it isn’t. It’s funny that you are hung up on the “convicted” part. That’s what LK always did whenever someone pointed out her many, many runins with the law. She would boast that she was “never convicted of anything.” I think that’s setting the bar pretty low. I am 65 years old and have never been arrested. Ever. I don’t think not being convicted of crimes you were arrested for is necessarily something to brag about.

[Moderator_1]

Going forward, please refer to Miss Kanarek’s record featuring multiple arrests as her “arrest record” instead of “criminal record” to avoid any further confusion.

[Omgitsme]

Standard of reasonable doubt is not the same thing as forensic evidence. All that means is the jury believed the state’s version of events (that MB shot LK.) there’s no forensic evidence to either affirm or disprove that.

[Sdel]

@Mondo

It’s funny that you are hung up on the “convicted” part. That’s what LK always did whenever someone pointed out her many, many runins with the law. She would boast that she was “never convicted of anything.”

Gee, it’s almost like a tell or something. One more among so many…

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Mondo

@CurrentlyHorseless

is accusing her of having been convicted of burglary.

No it isn’t. It’s funny that you are hung up on the “convicted” part. That’s what LK always did whenever someone pointed out her many, many runins with the law. She would boast that she was “never convicted of anything.” I think that’s setting the bar pretty low. I am 65 years old and have never been arrested. Ever. I don’t think not being convicted of crimes you were arrested for is necessarily something to brag about.

Yes, I think there is an important distinction between arrested and convicted. VHM was asking me if I thought LKs “lengthy criminal record” would be used in the civil trial.

To the extent she’s been convicted of felonies, (I haven’t seen the evidence) I think it would be. I doubt arrests without convictions will be allowed in the civil trial. It’s prejudicial.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

For heavens sake. The jury was supposed to determine whether the prosecution made its case beyond a reasonable doubt based on the evidence and testimony.

No they’re not the same thing, but one depends on the other.

[Maria]

LK has a lengthy “Arrest Record”.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@Mondo

It’s funny that you are hung up on the “convicted” part. That’s what LK always did whenever someone pointed out her many, many runins with the law. She would boast that she was “never convicted of anything.”

Gee, it’s almost like a tell or something. One more among so many…

Oh, another “tell”. What does it “tell” you @Sdel?

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@cutter99

It has been stated here repeatedly over the years what LK’s legal issues have been. It is not our jobs to bring you up to speed.

Nice try at calling the moderators in over nothing. We know you are trying to get the thread shut down.

We must have hit on something close to the heart today!

If they are squirming this hard during a polite COTH discussion…

They aren’t even CLOSE to prepared for what is going to happen during the deposition, much less if Lauren ever takes the stand during a civil trial.

In the civil trial, I think they will not be able to state that LK has “a long criminal history” that includes felonies such as burglary if she has not been convicted of those felonies, as you have stated.

I didn’t think it was allowed on the forum.

Again, you are so frigging naive. Charges can be brought up and discussed!!! Her lengthy list of charges show a pattern of behavior, just like for her parents!!! What’s that old saying, where there’s smoke there’s fire? These people simply don’t care about the rules and laws of society and rather than reform their behavior, they simply continue to buy their way out of their troubles. Can you move on now or do you want more examples of how her background will definitely be used against her???

[eggbutt]

@Sdel

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

But it’s 100% a FACT that LK was arrested for burglary in NJ in the mid aughts. Who she was burglaring and why, I don’t know. People did indeed speculate it was Kirby. I have no idea though. I just know that she was arrested, had to post a hefty bail, and it took years to close out the case.

It seems like there was also a warrant issued…

Aw, come on, doesn’t everyone have a record like this??? Don’t you want your children around someone like this?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

It tells us that you are taking all the discussion on this thread about LK’s arrest records and credibility problems INCREDIBLY personally.

Haven’t you maintained all along you don’t even know the woman in real life? I mean, if that’s the case, I really fail to understand why this whole discussion is upsetting and agitating you so much.

Do you have a long arrest record that you feel defensive about or something?

I’ve never been arrested for anything, so I can’t really relate to what it must be like to feel defensive about one’s own past, and worried that people will discover it and decide that they think you are some sort of degenerate human with character problems. That must be stressful though.

[MHM]

Just curious. Why would there be a last action date in 2017 for a thing that happened in 2006?

[cutter99]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

C’mon. He’s sorta like Sean Connery in an old James Bond flick, hanging out at a Casino drinking martinis.

Except… he’s from New Jersey.

I think I’d sooner go without, or even switch teams!

[eggbutt]

Maybe the Kanareks dragged it out that long!

[Sdel]

Plea deal like RC got? Traded information for a deal…

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@MHM

Just curious. Why would there be a last action date in 2017 for a thing that happened in 2006?

I’ve wondered that as well.

Maybe there was some sort of negotiated plea agreement involved?

If there is a negotiated plea agreement with some sort of community service… does the whole thing still only count as an arrest, or can we actually refer to it as a criminal conviction?

Just wondering.

[Sdel]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

or can we actually refer to it as a criminal conviction?

What about a guilty for a minor in possession charge?