I agree with and accept the jury’s verdict, NGRI, that the jury that unanimously found the prosecutor met the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the highest standard, that MB shot her twice, then the defense met the burden of proof by a preponderance of evidence that he was not criminally liable because he was insane at the time.
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Correction.
Actus reus- check
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The argument that he should have evicted her: he had begun the process. Days before the shooting there were talks happening. A facility had been found for her to move all her horses to. A facility that was equally as nice or even nicer than HH. She knew she wasn’t wanted at HH.
This begs the question: why didn’t she leave?
None of this would have happened if she had just left.
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There is an actual ninja dance
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You mean no one’s business like the whole MB and Vera thing?
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And although we have danced this circular dance with this eviction topic many times… she had no intention of leaving. If so, she would have been long gone when she first pretended to look for people to help haul her horses and posted all over SM… well before the shooting. Sadly, her little game of 5D chess did not turn out the way she expected that it would unfold…
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Accept it all you want, by all means. But can YOU point to one shred of evidence that proves without a doubt he brought the gun or pulled the trigger?
Spoiler alert: you can’t, because there is none.
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Exactly. It’s hilarious that anyone would pretend applying for an emergency 3 day eviction would have made her meekly pack her bags and go. Given how many levels she ratcheted up the harassment upon receiving notice from the lawyer, I shudder to imagine what she might have to done to Michael had she received an order signed by a judge instead.
SHE HAD NO INTENTION OF LEAVING, PERIOD.
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I have to wonder what the mindset of certain posters is that, for whatever reason, they continue to argue the same stuff over and over and over. Are their lives that bad that this is all they have to occupy their time? No possible way to see any little bit of truth in what they are opposing? Sad indeed 
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I can understand that the plaintiff must be less than 50% at fault to collect.
Is it true that considering each defendant individually, say RC, does LK need to establish that RC individually must be found at least 51% liable tor LK collect from RC?
Do you understand that this a NOT A DEFENSE? It’s nothing but a further indictment.
These type of removals are NOT the norm. And they are saved for people who are known criminals exhibiting dangerous, unlawful or criminal behavior. Holding onto this is like saying you didn’t have to leave the store when asked to leave because a judge hadn’t yet signed an order precluding you from going there and going back.
I’ll add that because as you say MB was only days away from such a Judge’s order being signed that it would make zero sense to feel the need for him to shoot her. That bolsters the argument that things didn’t go down the way LK the liar said they did.
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No. I think MB losing Vera as wife and business partner may have made him more vulnerable to the stresses imposed by MHG and LK. I think it’s relevant to what happened.
Especially if MB gave up his marriage and his successful business partnership with Vera to pursue MHG and MHG
threatened to leave him if he didn’t get rid of LK immediately. I said “IF”, because I wasn’t there and don’t know if MHG threatened to leave him.
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No kidding.
Where’s that hamster on the wheel?
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Spun till it’s legs fell off and was thrown across the room from the centrifugal force of denial.
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Were you there? From all accounts the Vera thing was over and if he wanted to bring in REAL money that bad it wouldn’t be by living with a 5 horse grifter for a measley $5000.
You don’t know him. You don’t know Vera. You weren’t there. Yet you are SURE that the Vera thing caused him stress though no one else but the lying side maintains that position.
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You know, MHG would have been well within her rights to demand MB make LK leave considering she was threatening/stalking her children, using them as a weapon to try to damage MHG’s career, and who knows what else. On 48 hours, MB all but said the boy was sent away because he was not safe on the farm. I have no doubt that there will be little sympathy for LK on that front.
Divorces are common, remarriages with step kids are common. And a lot of step parents have been subjected to the use of games and manipulations as an attempt to make them leave.
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We now have two topics where it is just proof that no matter what @CurrentlyHorseless refuses to learn anything presented.
How the civil case works has been explained in words, it has been explained with diagrams, it has been explained with pies, it has been explained with manure piles (well formed manure piles which horse people really like). But no. CH refuses to believe how many different people who explained how it worked ?
And now we are back to forgetting that Michael and Vera had been split up as a couple for some time before MHG came into the picture. Again, that fact does not fit their narrative so they refuse to believe it.
So weird … just so weird.
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It is so troubling that the Kanareks and their supporters believe Michael Barisone’s private relationships were any of their business. Sort of how they made GirlJoey’s life their business.
Here’s a news flash, the world does not revolve around the Kanareks and their crew nor are they entitled to know any details of any business owner they do business with. I sure hope they aren’t all in the private and personal business of the owners of whatever facility they are at now, especially if it is true the owners have small children!
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Still hoping to railroad someone else into agreeing that MB, SGF, and RC are liable.
I’m having flashbacks of my ex-DIL trying to get me to agree that she can be an absolute mental mess for disability eligibility and still be in the process of getting mentally healthy for regaining custody she lost over severe mental health issues. Also having flashbacks to the logical runaround my of my stepson demanding we bring him home after we found him someplace else to stay (that he didn’t like) when he filed his fake CPS report and claimed it was too dangerous for him to live in either of his parents’ homes.
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I don’t understand why MH was even part of the equation. If you are with a trainer and want more riding time with them why not speak to the trainer and say you would like more lessons with them and can it be worked out. You don’t have to say anything negative about the other trainers at all. If the trainer says no then you are within your rights to find another one and somewhere else to keep your horses.
SM posts don’t need to happen, SS doesn’t need to be contacted. Guns certainly don’t need to be mentioned or involved from either side. You find a trainer that better suits your needs, move your horses and go on from there. Many horse owners have done this successfully. It does not need to be difficult unless you make it so.
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