Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[hut-ho78]

@BigMama1

@hut-ho78

I agree with and accept the jury’s verdict, NGRI, that the jury that unanimously found the prosecutor met the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the highest standard, that MB shot her twice, then the defense met the burden of proof by a preponderance of evidence that he was not criminally liable because he was insane at the time.

Accept it all you want, by all means. But can YOU point to one shred of evidence that proves without a doubt he brought the gun or pulled the trigger?

Spoiler alert: you can’t, because there is none.

The prosecutor did. NGRI.

[MHM]

@Sdel

@trubandloki

How the civil case works has been explained in words, it has been explained with diagrams, it has been explained with pies, it has been explained with manure piles (well formed manure piles which horse people really like). But no. CH refuses to believe how many different people who explained how it worked ?

Still hoping to railroad someone else into agreeing that MB, SGF, and RC are liable.

To what end, though? In the hopes that one of the random BB people they convince will end up being on the six person jury for the civil trial, whether it ends up in New Jersey or Florida?

I’m no mathematician (or Professional Gambler!), but it seems like the odds of that happening are pretty darn long.

[Sdel]

@3PonyFarm

You find a trainer that better suits your needs, move your horses and go on from there.

Isn’t this in the top 10 talking points for just about every boarding/training discussion that can be found on CotH. If you aren’t happy, go somewhere else……

[3PonyFarm]

Yes. It is the most logical and practical solution. Why stay in a situation you are unhappy with.

[Sdel]

@MHM

To what end, though?

Just so they can go, “Ha, see!” And feel like they are right. It’s more about them than anything else.

[Knights_Mom]

@3PonyFarm

I don’t understand why MH was even part of the equation. If you are with a trainer and want more riding time with them why not speak to the trainer and say you would like more lessons with them and can it be worked out. You don’t have to say anything negative about the other trainers at all. If the trainer says no then you are within your rights to find another one and somewhere else to keep your horses.
SM posts don’t need to happen, SS doesn’t need to be contacted. Guns certainly don’t need to be mentioned or involved from either side. You find a trainer that better suits your needs, move your horses and go on from there. Many horse owners have done this successfully. It does not need to be difficult unless you make it so.

Yes this is how everyone else does it.

But this person, LK, felt the need to punish MB for her not being in favored nation status, teacher’s pet, numero uno student and that his romantic relationship MHG, was.

[3PonyFarm]

I have been at some barns where certain riders wanted to be the star. They either got over it or left to go somewhere else.

[MHM]

@Sdel

@MHM

To what end, though?

Just so they can go, “Ha, see!” And feel like they are right. It’s more about them than anything else.

Quite a Sisyphean task. And more than three years later, that boulder is no further up the hill. Lol.

[CindyB59]

Groundhog Day came early this year. Back to the beginning…again.

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Is it true that considering each defendant individually, say RC, does LK need to establish that RC individually must be found at least 51% liable tor LK collect from RC?

I thought Groundhog Day was Thursday this year?

[BigMama1]

@hut-ho78

The prosecutor did. NGRI.

I asked if YOU could point to a shred of evidence. Clearly you can’t.

[cutter99]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

No. I think MB losing Vera as wife and business partner may have made him more vulnerable to the stresses imposed by MHG and LK. I think it’s relevant to what happened

Were you there? From all accounts the Vera thing was over and if he wanted to bring in REAL money that bad it wouldn’t be by living with a 5 horse grifter for a measley $5000.

You don’t know him. You don’t know Vera. You weren’t there. Yet you are SURE that the Vera thing caused him stress though no one else but the lying side maintains that position.

Didn’t someone else insist the Vera thing was such a stressor? Someone other than @CurrentlyHorseless?

[Knights_Mom]

@cutter99

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

No. I think MB losing Vera as wife and business partner may have made him more vulnerable to the stresses imposed by MHG and LK. I think it’s relevant to what happened

Were you there? From all accounts the Vera thing was over and if he wanted to bring in REAL money that bad it wouldn’t be by living with a 5 horse grifter for a measley $5000.

You don’t know him. You don’t know Vera. You weren’t there. Yet you are SURE that the Vera thing caused him stress though no one else but the lying side maintains that position.

Didn’t someone else insist the Vera thing was such a stressed? Someone other than @CurrentlyHorseless?

Yes IM

[Knights_Mom]

[cutter99]

@Knights_Mom

@cutter99

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

No. I think MB losing Vera as wife and business partner may have made him more vulnerable to the stresses imposed by MHG and LK. I think it’s relevant to what happened

Were you there? From all accounts the Vera thing was over and if he wanted to bring in REAL money that bad it wouldn’t be by living with a 5 horse grifter for a measley $5000.

You don’t know him. You don’t know Vera. You weren’t there. Yet you are SURE that the Vera thing caused him stress though no one else but the lying side maintains that position.

Didn’t someone else insist the Vera thing was such a stressed? Someone other than @CurrentlyHorseless?

Yes IM

Huh, imagine that. Shocking, just absolutely shocking and astounding!!!

[BigMama1]

@Knights_Mom

Yes IM

And LK

[Sdel]

Might I suggest we all play the quiet game?

[hut-ho78]

@BigMama1

@hut-ho78

The prosecutor did. NGRI.

I asked if YOU could point to a shred of evidence. Clearly you can’t.

I already had. He had the weapon that was used to shoot LK. He was the last one in the room with the weapon. The weapon was then found underneath him. He had the weapon. He had motive. He had opportunity.

No one else had the weapon.

[3PonyFarm]

That poor white hamster! The brown one is a bully!

[Sdel]

@3PonyFarm

That poor white hamster! The brown one is a bully!

When you’ve got to go, you’ve got to go. That brown hamster definitely had somewhere to go. He should get a 10 for forward.