Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

He’s everywhere! Lol.

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I have a dog who I wouldn’t trust not to bite due to his temperament. I have to be extremely careful with him due to guarding behaviors. If my house door was open he could not physically get out to attack anyone. There’s always at least 2 doors. Not that he would unless they were eating his food that they took from him.

I make sure that no animal or human is in position to trigger him. Other than that he is a loving happy dog who plays with the other dogs happily for hours. As long as I don’t go out with them they are at peace. Should I go out and sit down, this would trigger his guarding. He’d need a muzzle then.

If I couldn’t control him he would have to be put down or live in a muzzle.

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As he should be - he is magnificent…. Sigh…

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This forum is one itsy bitsy teenie weenie infinitesimal* part of the horse world, and smaller yet of the whole world. If this is the only place that group feels their flagging and censoring can control the narrative, fine. Once we get past being annoyed, its ineffectiveness to the big picture is pretty darn funny.

*small

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Well, if someone prefers to be described using the word tawdry (it’s a three-fer!) rather than the ‘m’ word, people can oblige.

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This dog owner is in massive trouble.

Edited. Updated video. The owner and dog have been identified.

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I had one of those. She was great with her own family, including my daughter from birth onward. She was also fine with my daughter’s friends unless they were adult size. She was very fearful (beaten by her breeder) and was aggressive. She never met a new person unless she was on a leash, was obedience trained (successfully) and we were extremely careful to ensure she never got out. She managed to live her entire life without ever biting.

She was so loving with DH, DD and me. She also accepted my sister and niece and was fond of them. But my mother would never listen to me on how to approach this dog, and my mother was highly offended that she could not make friends with her. My mother was an idiot at times.

Rebecca

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It’s been such a long time since the spring and summer leading up to August 7, 2019. For many, the horror of hearing all that happened leading up to August 7 has faded, at least emotionally. When the civil trials begin and Chris Deininger methodically lays out everything Lauren Shay Kanarek and her cohorts did before the shooting, the raw visceral, emotional, feelings will resurface big time. In some ways it may be good that there has been so many delays for whatever reasons, because the story will be fresher for the jury.
I still believe it is a giant long shot for the Kanareks to be awarded anything, primarily because Miss Kanarek refused to leave after posting so many social media posts expressing her fear juxtaposed by the manifesto, zero forensic evidence proving anything that occurred that day, and the proven lies from the criminal trial witness stand.

The one year anniversary from the not guilty verdicts is 64 days from today and Michael Barisone is still incarcerated completely due to the whim of a biased judge. None of this makes any sense to many. 1,284 days confined (as of today). Seems a bit punitive IMO.

Note to self - be prepared for a lengthy pedantic post from certain posters about the meaning of NGRI.

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I raised this guy from a pup. He was never beaten. At 5 he developed a fear of fireworks and thunder suddenly.

At 6 he attacked my little min pin in a full out rage. They were out in the yard and I went out to teach them to use a kitty pool in the summer. I threw treats into the dry kitty pool and he attacked the dog closest to him. A dog who helped raise him. Full on red zone. I saved the min pin.

One dog was attacked when he went under a futon. Another when they passed the kitty litter box and both made for the one cat poo in there.

He is fine if they are all in the backyard as long as I don’t go out with them. In the house the others are kept separate.

He is 11 now. Although he is robustly healthy now I know his time is limited. 40-50 lb dogs only live so long. So I make it so he can stay alive. He is a sweet dog and loving when not resource guarding.

He is a Rhodesian Ridge mix with various other somethings. I haven’t a clue why this happened.

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Wow. I salute you for your attention to him. I love Rhodesian Ridges, beautiful dogs by sight, but I’ve never known one.

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I wonder if Rosie is gone. She may well have been taken by the police.

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I had a Dutchie who was a resource guarder and devoted to his owner. He wasn’t as extreme as your dog, but he was more than I knew what to do with. I ended up giving him to a single friend who lived alone and she liked to run. He liked to run, he didn’t like anyone approaching his human. I thought they would be a good pair, but only after he got in her car one day after a visit. I think he actually did the choosing, not me.

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I had an RR mix. He was living on the street in a friend’s neighborhood so I took him. One of the smartest dogs I’ve ever had. One night, when I was living in a neighborhood, I could hear someone going door to door just banging on them and running. Scared me to death. I got up and went in the living room. My pup started walking he perimeter of the house. Even after it got quiet he kept on until he was satisfied that I was safe and then he came to bed. I loved that boy so much.

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When he was a pup, like 7 months old he was playing with the cat, chased him, caught the cat by the back left leg and the leg broke. Happened right in front of me. Totally done in play, not at all intentional.

Took cat to vet. Vet says we can amputate or put in screws. Thousands of dollars either way. Then I spoke with a fellow student of trainer who was a cat vet and she said just to have them splint it. That the saying is if 2 broken cat bones are in the same room they will mend together. So I did that. That cat healed beautifully, he jumps all over the place, no limp. Nothing. I put one of his beds on the top of the fridge and the high hat light right above heats him but I don’t even notice any favoring to that leg for heat. Cat still chases dog, but outside only.


An actual RR pup

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I can’t imagine that would not have been added to the list of grievances on social media.

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I’m sure Kujo is still with LK if still young enough to be alive.

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My problem dog was a 95 pound Labrador. It certainly wasn’t typical for the breed. I found out after I bought her that the breeder’s husband used a whip on the dogs. I couldn’t figure out at first why a three month old puppy was so quick to sit when asked. That was why.

You must walk on eggshells with your dog. I know we did at times. I’m glad you found a way to manage him.

When I got pregnant with my daughter, my mother would call screaming at me to euthanize the dog before the baby was born. She said she was convinced that the dog would kill the baby. Well, first, I would never leave a baby alone with a large dog. My daughter was ten when this dog died, and they had never been alone together. Second, this dog loved kids and was very protective of my daughter. The dog went after my stepmother (whom she ordinarily liked) when my stepmother walked out the back door holding the baby. Luckily, DH and I were right there to intervene. Third, I would never allow a child to do anything that a dog would interpret as aggression.

When my daughter started crawling, the dog got the use of the furniture and the baby had the floor. It worked for us. The dog got to nap on the sofa (her favorite activity) and the baby could explore the living room, which was babyproofed to the hilt.

Rebecca

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What? I can’t believe someone reported that… well actually I can.

People suck.

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Deduct from… What,?
The rent they didn’t pay?

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I used to get stuck on the WHY he was. After 5 years growing up with his dog family. When I looked to the breed I finally saw why. It’s just inside him and no matter how I or his animal friends treated him that was him. And 5 was when he felt dominant with them. At least I’m still pack leader, and especially my husband. Knowing the rules of the game makes things easier.

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