Michael/ Lauren civil trial update February 9

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

That’s fine. You can watch whatever movie you want in your head. Even if you’re the only one in the theater.

What I said was that I’m not buying into Eggbutt’s “director’s cut” of the Elderly Illegal Mob Movie, which has been running for three years now.

We do not care what you think.

[Knights_Mom]

@FitzE

@eggbutt

For someone who says she doesn’t know any Kanarek or Goodwin in any way, you sure seem to question those who do know facts about them first hand.

This is a very good point and one I haven’t seen addressed before in all these threads. The obsessive need to support people you’ve never met/have no connection with is very odd in and of itself. Negating the lived experience of people who, in fact, do know and have had (often unfortunate/unpleasant) interactions/business dealings with these people is downright bonkers.

I may think, from afar, that Gary Busey seems like a nice guy and people are just giving him unfair treatment. However, I would not come on here and tell @erinmeri that she did not experience his behaviour the way she clearly articulates that she did. Ditto for the many other first-person reports of his behaviour.

It’s especially egregious in this case as there is a critical mass of people from different states, different fields, and different time periods all corroborating a pattern of behaviour of this whole family plus RG. To attempt to invalidate all that evidence/lived experience/first-hand information is truly bizarre.

To do so on behalf of complete strangers is incomprehensible.

ETA: If I did feel strongly enough to challenge people’s views of Gary Busey, I cannot imagine a universe in which I would continue to do so for 3 years in the face of overwhelming evidence that I had the wrong end of the stick. I’d either change my views on Mr Busey or I would simply walk away and leave the Busey haters to themselves.

To carry this weird torch for so long, to put in the reading and responding hours seen here, is simply beyond my ken unless I knew and genuinely cared for the person at issue.

This ^^^^

[Davignport]

Do we have to again be reminded not to engage with certain posters no matter what they say?? The answer is yes.

[MHM]

Once again, easier said than done. Lol.

[LexInVA]

@Davignport

Do we have to again be reminded not to engage with certain posters no matter what they say?? The answer is yes.

[Ambitious_Kate]

Lex, that was priceless. Entirely perfect.

[Knights_Mom]

Geeze people, I mentioned Busey as a joke. But run with it you must LOL

[SillyHorse]

@Davignport

Do we have to again be reminded not to engage with certain posters no matter what they say?? The answer is yes.

@MHM

Once again, easier said than done. Lol.

Actually, it’s very easy. Put them on your ignore list and be done with it.

[trubandloki]

@SillyHorse

@Davignport

Do we have to again be reminded not to engage with certain posters no matter what they say?? The answer is yes.

@MHM

Once again, easier said than done. Lol.

Actually, it’s very easy. Put them on your ignore list and be done with it.

Have you missed the nine million and three posts over the last almost as many threads about how ignore fails quite frequently?

[CanteringCarrot]

@trubandloki

@SillyHorse

@Davignport

Do we have to again be reminded not to engage with certain posters no matter what they say?? The answer is yes.

@MHM

Once again, easier said than done. Lol.

Actually, it’s very easy. Put them on your ignore list and be done with it.

Have you missed the nine million and three posts over the last almost as many threads about how ignore fails quite frequently?

Honestly, I really haven’t had this problem.

I don’t see posts from the posters that I have on ignore. They’re even hidden in the quotes (just says their user name). I think once in a great while something squeezes through, but then I practice self control and ignore I think some people view the “hidden content” because it is an option, but again, self control.

The ignore feature certainly could be better though!

[LexInVA]

@Knights_Mom

Geeze people, I mentioned Busey as a joke. But run with it you must LOL

Once you invoke The Gary Busey, it cannot be contained again, without a blood sacrifice!

[LexInVA]

@SillyHorse

@Davignport

Do we have to again be reminded not to engage with certain posters no matter what they say?? The answer is yes.

@MHM

Once again, easier said than done. Lol.

Actually, it’s very easy. Put them on your ignore list and be done with it.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@FitzE

I may think, from afar, that Gary Busey seems like a nice guy and people are just giving him unfair treatment. However, I would not come on here and tell @erinmeri that she did not experience his behaviour the way she clearly articulates that she did. Ditto for the many other first-person reports of his behaviour.

Has anyone come on and disputed @erinmeri s first person report of Gary Busey’s behavior?

What I am skeptical of are the numerous statements in which @Eggbutt clearly was not a direct participant.

Example: The claim that MB only permitted LK to live in the farmhouse because JK “threatened” him. The two parties to that alleged threat are MB and JK. Not Eggbutt. Neither of the people actually involved has said any threats were involved.

Example: CPS showed up on Aug 7 to investigate MB on claims of child sexual abuse because LK had called CPS.

What part of that would Eggbutt have first hand knowledge of? None of it. The truth was that CPS was investigating MHG, not MB, and the issue was child neglect, not child abuse, and that CPS came out in response to an alert from SS, not LK. The narrative pushed by Eggbutt 600 times over two years was entirely untrue.

Example: Eggbutt claims LK fat shamed one of her relatives on FB, and posts a screen shot of the offensive post. Here Eggbutt does have first hand, direct knowledge of the interaction with LK on SM, and a screen shot of the offensive post. There had been plenty of first hand evidence of LKs SM behavior posted on these threads, and I’m convinced she’s guilty of fat shaming and worse.

If Eggbutt and others confined themselves to statements about which they had direct knowledge, as ErinMeri did, I would believe them. It’s the narrative that they spin concerning events of which they don’t have direct knowledge that I’m skeptical of. Indeed, on the CPS thing, the facts as revealed in the trial indicated that Eggbutt was entirely wrong.

I believe ErinMeri’s anecdote about Garry Busey. I had a similar experience about 10 years ago when I was in a hotel room in an unfamiliar city (not LA; I think it was Philadelphia). I was alone.

At about 9:00 or 10:00, I heard loud pounding on the door. Not knocking, pounding. It never occurred to me to open the door. I called the front desk and asked them to send security. By the time they arrived, the guy was gone.

Maybe it was Gary Busey. I’ll never know.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Example: The claim that MB only permitted LK to live in the farmhouse because JK “threatened” him. The two parties to that alleged threat are MB and JK. Not Eggbutt. Neither of the people actually involved has said any threats were involved.

Oh CH, I am disappointed in you. You should pick topics that there are not things posted here about.
Darn you.
You make it way too easy.

Michael did say something about the whole being forced to take Lauren Kanarek back after Jonathon Kanark threatened (that is the word used) Michael in his lawsuit against the police. It is right there, plain as day, I should think even the most confused person here can understand it. Here is a screen shot for you.

And…Lauren herself talks about it in her big Manifesto post.

I would love to go thru and post things about everything else but you get the point. I shall folow the advice of the others and not respond further.

[Sdel]

Huh….arduous legal process……aka they threatened to sue him or fight an eviction….those are both arduous legal processes…

[Knights_Mom]

@LexInVA

@Knights_Mom

Geeze people, I mentioned Busey as a joke. But run with it you must LOL

Once you invoke The Gary Busey, it cannot be contained again, without a blood sacrifice!

OMG I’m dead now!!

[Maria]

ooooopsie

Hate when this happens. /s

[SillyHorse]

@trubandloki

Have you missed the nine million and three posts over the last almost as many threads about how ignore fails quite frequently?

No, I haven’t missed them, but like Cantering Carrot, it works fine for me. If ignored posters start to bleed through, I refresh my screen and all is well.

But if you, as Lex says, enjoy talking to brick walls, be my guest. I’ll pass, thanks.

[Omgitsme]

I’m way behind but I do want to address that JK tried to get involved with RG being fired. I don’t know why, but he did call the owners of the company and tell them they couldn’t fire RG.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

Example: The claim that MB only permitted LK to live in the farmhouse because JK “threatened” him. The two parties to that alleged threat are MB and JK. Not Eggbutt. Neither of the people actually involved has said any threats were involved.

Oh CH, I am disappointed in you. You should pick topics that there are not things posted here about.
Darn you.
You make it way too easy.

Michael did say something about the whole being forced to take Lauren Kanarek back after Jonathon Kanark threatened (that is the word used) Michael in his lawsuit against the police. It is right there, plain as day, I should think even the most confused person here can understand it. Here is a screen shot for you.

And…Lauren herself talks about it in her big Manifesto post.

I would love to go thru and post things about everything else but you get the point. I shall folow the advice of the others and not respond further.

I was making a distinction between reporting direct, first hand experience as ErinMeri did and making claims about something one does not have direct experience with.

@Eggbutt was not present at discussions between JK and MB. Neither was Chris Deininger.