ooof. Auction-- man that’d be a sad ending for this mare. I hope the owner has a shred of decency. OP, can you lean on the trainer to make sure the owner knows the mare’s terrible fate if she goes to auction, and try to convince her to euthanize instead of abansoning?
She lives in a subdivision. We were told that if the horse broke free and hurt someone or something, we could be responsible for it. So I’m glad he told us don’t because I had fully intended to do that.
I doubt I could ever take a horse to auction so was just considering what else could be done.
I’m really REALLY hoping it won’t come to that. It’s not something I want to do, at all. Not only for the horse, but to the boarder. As much as she’s taken advantage and all, and the bad blood created between us, it’s not my desire to be the one that takes her animal from her. I hope she doesn’t put me in that position.
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I’m really REALLY hoping it won’t come to that. It’s not something I want to do, at all. Not only for the horse, but to the boarder. As much as she’s taken advantage and all, and the bad blood created between us, it’s not my desire to be the one that takes her animal from her. I hope she doesn’t put me in that position.[/QUOTE]My feeling is if you have to take the horse to auction to comply with the law, it’s not your fault but hers. She put the horse in this position, not you. You are not a charity. This is not your horse and you are not responsible for it. She is and she is failing miserably. Sounds like the auction might just be the wake up call for her to realize that there are consequences to her actions and she cannot keep taking advantage of people. It’s called karma. Bad things should come to bad people. I see no reason why you should be more invested in this horse than her owner is. I know it sounds cold and heartless but from a logical standpoint this is not your horse, ergo - not your responsibility. Absolve yourself from this situation however you need to but stay within the law. If she wants to paint you as a big meanie for shipping her horse out - fine. But any stand-up horse person would know that the fault in this situation lies with the horse owner. Not you. And the opinion of anyone that buys her hype isn’t worth diddly squat.
Thank you Snowflake. I just feel badly for the mare. Jeez, if that woman gave a sh*t at all, on any level, you would think she would have approached me and said “how can I make this right?” then gotten off her pedestal and MADE IT RIGHT. But no, she’s stomping around, ever the victim that one.
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As bad as it sounds, we want to do everything in our power that sends the message “take your horse”. I don’t want to give ANY message that we’re interested in taking on that horse or want to continue caring for it. It’s a hardship for her to come out twice a day, and quite frankly, too bad. Of course, if she doesn’t make it out, the horse will eat. We’re not taking anything out on the animal.
We were told that the letter from the lawyer must give her 2 weeks. So “my” two weeks that I gave her really doesn’t count. Of course, she doesn’t need to know that.[/QUOTE]
If she’s a professional scammer, she already knows that. You put your effort at risk if you don’t follow the letter of the law. Alas, it means extending the deadline, but I’d consult your lawyer for sure before just “hoping she doesn’t know that.”
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Thank you Snowflake. I just feel badly for the mare. Jeez, if that woman gave a sh*t at all, on any level, you would think she would have approached me and said “how can I make this right?” then gotten off her pedestal and MADE IT RIGHT. But no, she’s stomping around, ever the victim that one.[/QUOTE]
Feeling bad is completely normal and understandable. But, you did not create the means for that end. The owner made choices that created the end result. Going to the auction doesn’t guarantee that she will be bought by a kill buyer. It may be an upgrade to a more responsible home for her. If I were in this position and bound by the law to dispose of the horse by auction, I would work with a dealer to haul the mare to the auction and deal with the logistics of it. Yeah, you might have to pay commissions to the dealer but at least then if the deadbeat owner comes back and asks questions like who bought it, etc., you can say you don’t know and not be lying. A little bit of separation from auction wouldn’t be a bad thing. I guess a little bit of ignorance is bliss in a way?
This may be the better plan, IMO. At this point, you’ve only got 4 days until she’s supposed to be out, one of them a non-mail-delivery day. You may be better letting her know that your lawyer has been contacted, and if the horse has not been removed by the prearranged Dec 8th deadline, further actions are in the works. Because I agree, if you send the letter now, this scammer has worked the system before, and knows it buys her another two weeks.
Exactly. The clock will start all over for her, but she’s not going to know that unless the clock HAS to start all over again. Fingers crossed.
I don’t think you actually have to “take the horse to auction,” I think you can hold a private auction, if I remember rightly. You have to post notice of it in the barn for a couple of weeks.
Does the woman’s so called trainer (is she really a trainer?) have a barn that you could drop the horse off if the woman doesn’t move her by the 8th? If you know the trainer would it be right to call her and say the horse is being dropped off at her barn (if she in fact has one) if it came to that?
I made the comment about her trainer and questioning her being one because I can’t for the life of me think any trainer would be training this woman if she is in the habit of not paying for anything. Is this trainer aware of the situation regarding the board that is owed?
All I can think is poor, poor horse.
You’ve been taken advantage of & I’m sorry for that, but the real loser here is the innocent horse.
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Jingles & AO that the 8th is a day of ‘closure’
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the return to your ‘private’ & happy barn ~
Wishing GOOD LUCK ~ [/B]
I think it’s been stated on here before, that the auction in some states can be right at the barn. I don’t know if that’s legal where you are, but I’m sure the attorney told you already.
The horse is lame. Do people really believe that auctioning off the horse whether on site or off is going to bring a good result for the Op or the horse? Believe me. As a barn owner you do Not want a lien on on a lame horse or any other un saleable horse.
Far better to put the lien on the tack, BUT, the auction may be the only way to get the horse off the property. It’s a tough spot to be in, so I hope it ends well.
Auction is the only way to get rid of a lame horse fast. I believe that will bring a good result for the OP. The horse will be gone. She won’t have to spend any more money on it that she will never see again. It’s a win.
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The horse is lame. Do people really believe that auctioning off the horse whether on site or off is going to bring a good result for the Op or the horse? Believe me. As a barn owner you do Not want a lien on on a lame horse or any other un saleable horse.[/QUOTE]
Who buys lame horses other than meat man
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The horse is lame. Do people really believe that auctioning off the horse whether on site or off is going to bring a good result for the Op or the horse? Believe me. As a barn owner you do Not want a lien on on a lame horse or any other un saleable horse.[/QUOTE]
Nobody thinks it would end well.
But if that’s what the law says to do, what, exactly, do you think the OP should do differently?
Keep the horse on the property forever? She won’t be the legal owner, because the horse didn’t go to auction. So she has to pay for the horse and keep dealing with its actual owner. If she wanted to do that, she wouldn’t have started this whole process.
Sell the horse privately? Legally, she apparently can’t. She has to auction it. And who do you think will buy it privately?
Buy the horse at auction and then euthanize it? She could do that. She’d be out money, but she’d have peace of mind.
But she has to do SOMETHING to get the horse off the property, if the owner doesn’t move it, and legally, apparently, that includes auction.
Unless you have some other legal solution for her?
Exactly.
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Who buys lame horses other than meat man[/QUOTE]
