Musical Freestyles and Pas De Deux: Where to start?

Myself and a friend of mine have decided that we want to do a Pas De Deux next year. We have a show in June in mind to debut, so that gives us plenty of time to get our crap together, but that’s all we got.

So how do most people get started? How do you pick music? I imagine finding music with a tempo that works is pretty hard. Are there people who specialize in choreographing stuff like this? The more I think about it, the more questions I have. Our trainer is pretty conservative and I don’t think that he has ever done this sort of thing before. I think we will be more or less on our own when we try to develop the ride.

I do not think finding music with a tempo that works is difficult at all.

Horses walk, trot, and canter to tempos that are represented across all genres of music, from pop/rock to classical to soul to Spanish guitar to bagpipe music, and anything else that floats your boat. Movie themes, vocals or instrumental, it’s pretty wide open and finding a piece with a suitable tempo for each gait that also excites or inspires you is not a big deal.

The things that are “hard” (or, expensive, if you hire a professional) are selecting and then editing the pieces together in a seamless way, and, developing the choreography.

Judges expect to see something interesting and not too much like the test of the level you’re riding. At the same time, you need to put the geometric elements called for in the tests of the level you are riding, into the Freestyle. Without making it look like a test, but, with all the parts of the tests represented. THAT is the hard part, and that is what freestyle designers are able to charge the big bucks for doing for you.

There are lots of resources online to help you get started and answer your basic questions, including some references from the USDF site under the heading for Musical Freestyles. There are companies that provide music you can buy that is already blended for walk, trot, and canter and that meets the time limits required. There are many designers to be found online or by referral. It just depends on your budget as well as your own musical prowess and design capability, as to what will work best for you.

Have fun and remember when you get those tests back that, if you think dressage itself is subjective, riding Freestyles is even more so. And that’s okay!

edited to add: I think Pas de Deaux are done so rarely that if you meet the requirements, most judges will be thrilled just to have you in the ring. So don’t fret the imperfections or the details. I suspect there will be a few 'bonus points" thrown your way just for being there. Go play and have fun.

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My first dressage test ever was a Pas de Deux. I highly recommend going for it !!

If you ping Mike Matson on COTH, he can give you some ideas on where to look for music. I seem to recall he has a website where you input the bpm for each gait and it will give you suggestions on suitable music. That would be a good starting point.

One of the best parts about the pas de deux is the extra creativity you can express by working on choreography for two horses. When I did my pas de deux, I really had to work on that part as my horse was an OTTB, not too far off the track and cantering along side another horse would have not been a good idea :lol:

I found the USDF freestyle and pas de deux pages, and I understand the requirements, but it wasn’t very helpful beyond that. Unless there is a page that I am not seeing.

I will look into contacting Mike Matson. He is local, so that is nice. I think he has hosted clinics where he helps people find freestyle music.

Having a pro at least help get started might be good, especially if you can get to a clinic type situation. I’d hoped to do that myself, as Mike Matson does some in this area, but things just didn’t work out that way, and I ended up doing it all myself.

To figure out how the music worked with the gait, I just had a friend video 30 seconds of us at each gait that I could have playing in one window while clicking through some different music in another, and seeing how things worked. I had some idea of a general theme/style of music I wanted, and a few ideas, and just played around with those til I found things that worked. I think that took one cold winter evening, and was actually pretty fun, and gave me several choices of music to work with. Then I used the elements required on the freestyle at the level I needed, and put a test together for myself, then cut the music together.

I will say, as someone whose job includes doing some video editing for a national network, the most frustrating part of the whole thing was editing together the music. I found the GarageBand software incredibly frustrating and without a lot of the fine controls I’m used to having in professional video editing software. This is another point where, if you have the funds, it may be worth considering having someone else do the editing for you.

Be prepared for judges comments on the music to be all over. I’ve had wildly differing comments on my music selections, and I don’t even have unusual or shocking music, it’s all from old musicals. I’m not sure how the same trot music can both be “great” and need “more beat”, but you get that judge’s opinion on that day :wink:

My riding partner and I use this process: first we got our horses Gaits/steps counted so that we knew with the tempo was for each at walk trot and canter, then we averaged that so we could use it to select music. Then we designed the geometry of the test, then we videotaped her test together with new music. Then we picked out three songs -walk ,trot ,and canter tempos, and then we took the video and the music to a staff person at our local radio station. He could tell from the video that we needed, for example, 1minute four seconds of the walk music, 2.1 seconds of the trot music, etc. that was the first edit, we rode in practice to that music and then made the changes. He charged us $300

where are you located? My daughter and her friend have done some but there is a really good trainer near us that has a knack for putting them together and she is a silver medalist so she knows what you need at each level and make sure it is in there. So if you live local to her that would be great! She does not charge much either we are in down state New York. Our girls did Star Wars and Batman… costumes and all it was a ton of fun…

I’ve planned a bunch of these rides over the years - being both a rider, professional musician and a generally creative mind - and have a few recommendations. I am not familiar with the USDF requirements though so be sure you check that out…

  1. do a lot of riding together with your partner, without having the test. Just ride figures and school together so you can get used to the timing of things and also adjusting your pace to match your partner.

  2. plan your test FIRST. You’ll never find one song or even a few songs that work perfectly for your ride so plan the test first and do the music last.

  3. once you’ve gotten the test planned out, practice riding it extensively. When you can really nail it, get a video done. Assess the BPM for each gait and how much of each one you need, and then start the search for the music. I seem to recall a website where you could put in the BPM and it would suggest songs! If I find it again I will post.

  4. seek out some kind of experienced music editor/AV person to help you cut and splice tracks. There are people who do freestyle music for a living (some composers will even write the music specifically for you and your horse!) but the average music tech should be able to put this together for you.

If you’re looking for a way to do this for less $, you might seek out the music department of your nearest university and see if they have a composition or music tech major who would be interested in helping you out for a lesser cost than a fully fledged professional.

Most importantly, good luck and have fun! Pas de deux are awesome!

Make the ride first? Really? That seems counter intuitive. Like, it seems like you loose the art doing it that way. But I’ll take your word for it. We have time to try to approach it both ways. So we shall see.

And I’m not terribly worried about music editing. I have enough friends from college who are STILL trying to be famous music “producers” (whatever that means) so I’ll get them to edit it for me.

If neither of you have ridden a freestyle yet, I would strongly suggest that you consider holding off for a year on the Pas de Deux, and each do a freestyle first. The recommendations that others made above about measuring the beats per minute of your horses gaits, and then choosing music that fits exactly is good advice. If you want to go that route, the website that is really helpful with this is: http://www.equimusic.com/

That is not the only way to go. Sometimes you can find music that is suggestive of the gait and fits well with your horse even if the footfalls are not exactly on the beat. Either way: Videotape your horse at the walk, trot, and canter - then watch the video with the music playing and select music that you think goes well with your horse and enhances the movement. (using the samples on I-tunes works well for this). You will want to choose 3 different pieces - one for walk, one for trot, and one for canter. Once you have selected a few possibilities, ride your horse with the selections playing and see if there is one that seems to “fit” better - you will often get a feeling while riding to music about whether the beat fits the horse. Also, some sound-sensitive horses dislike certain types of music, so this is a good time to check for that - remember it will be playing fairly loud during your performance. Not just “background” music.

Next make your choreography. As previously recommended, video your horse doing the choreography. You can then time how long the music should be for each section. OR if you like video editing, you can just use the selected music to make a soundtrack to the video, then edit it right on the video editing software. You will find that need to make sections of the choreography a little bit longer or shorter in order to make the editing breaks at a pleasing placed in the music (i.e. beginning and ending of a musical phrase). You don’t need to have special music for every single movement, but do try to place stronger parts of the music where you do your lengthenings, etc.

Remember that it is not important that your movements or transitions happen right at a letter. It is OK to cut off one end of the arena, or to make a transition between letters. However, if a circle is a required movement, it needs to be exactly the right size, and anything that happens on the centerline should be right on centerline.

Then listen to the edited music many times until you know it well. Then ride your choreography to it until you can reliably get the transitions and movements timed to the music.

Yes, there are people (professionals) who will do all of this for you. One of the most fun, and effective ways to get a pro to do this, is at a “Freestyle Clinic.” – Check with GMO’s and trainers in your area to see if one is scheduled anywhere near you. Usually at a clinic, the presenter works with you one day on selecting music that you like and which matches your horse well. Then on day two, she works on choreography. She will help you work out choreography that show-cases your horse’s strongest movements and hides his flaws, but still fulfills all of the requirements. Then she either times you doing the movements, or videos you so that she can edit your music and give you a finished product. The cost of doing it this way can be anywhere from $300 - $1000 depending on the clinician. Two of the most popular are Karen Robinson, and Cynthia Collins. They both have excellent websites that explain what they do. If you can’t get to a clinic, either of them will also work with you through e-mail and sending video/music back and forth to do the same thing long-distance. Even if you decide that you want to do-it-yourself, auditing a clinic can be VERY helpful for ideas and for understanding the process.

There are also other people who will sell pre-made music and choreography for less money. These are not specifically made for your horse, but are just timed for an “average” horse. You tell the pro what size horse you have, what genre of music you like, and they send you edited music and written choreography. These are less expensive, and easier. They are actually quite acceptable for lower level competition, but IMO not as satisfying, and don’t help you to learn about what the process of what dancing with your horse is supposed to be about. (sorry, I don’t know any names off the top of my head, but you should be able to find some with a google search.)

When you get to actually doing the Pas de Deux, it won’t be so important that the beat of the music exactly matches your horse, because most of the time, the horses won’t exactly match each other anyway. (But there are a couple really well matched pairs out there who actually do stay in step.) However, you will still want to watch each horse (separately) going with the possible musics and pick some that seem well matched to BOTH horses and enhance their gaits.
Also look at youtube videos. If you search for “Dressage Freestyle XXX Level” or “dressage pas de deux” you will find lots of examples that will be helpful for ideas.

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Ride together with music in the arena. Make sure your playlist is full ofdifferent style you’d like and try all the songs you’ve got.

Try to find « your » tempo at walk, trot and canter; that will suit both of your horses.

You might also see which music your horses like to dance to.

Then put the choregraphy together and edit the musics.

Do some fun elements and try to use as much space as possible. Please don’t just circle around endlessly… I scribe a lot and it gets boring after 3 circles…
In general, you don’t want to repeat each element more than twice.

Half circles, figure eights, loops, big circle, volte, etc…
Use the whole space!

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