Mustang gentling via R+

So much is going so well with the mustangs. The ones in the ‘sheep barn’, those four are making good progress. Tovah, new as of Dec 1, now eats alfalfa hay from my hand. Will not spook if i walk past her, moves by my hand/body signal more-or-less comfortably into the training area (36x36) for private tutoring.
Steve has learned not to bolt out of my hands in a halter and leadrope. He is more confident in being bound to me by a rope. So now, he gets to go outside his corral on a halter (very briefly, then right back in).
Rizada put her nose through the halter’s nose ring…like 20 or 40 times in a row, for treats. We’ll review that and then will start draping the halter over her poll, (and then off, and then over and then off and then over) and one day soon, she will be getting dressed in a halter and learn to lead.
And Fae, my little sweetie, will stand anywhere i toss her rope over a panel rail and let me pick up all four of her feet. She still is a bit ‘halty-starty’ on a lead but she’s ALMOST 'there’.

I need to mention that i have the 8 mustangs in pods of four. I feel that they are emotionally more comfortable that way. Also, each pod has a large-ish corral and are free to move as far away from me as they need to, when they need to. I do not move their feet/establish dominance/become their fearless leader in a roundpen/move them until they joinUp….none of that. I present myself in as grounded and positive demeanor as i can and offer them approval and food when they come around. I think that by being the sole provider of alfalfa they work quite hard to figure out how to get what they want.

As of a few days ago, the four in the ‘horse barn’ (Ajax, Sinnerman, Warlock and Whisper will all come into the 36x36 ‘stall’ with me in it. AND! Ajax will let me close him in with me …all alone. In fact, the way i’ve set it up, he PREFERS to be alone with me….LOL. Here’s how i managed that: I opened the door and let them watch me place some alfalfa hay in there, then i stand back and let Ajax walk in, (being the most bold, he always is first to approach). I closed the door behind him and went and sat quietly in the corner and watched him eat for about five mins…THEN i get up, walked over and open the door allowed the other three to come in and gobble up all ‘his’ hay. Did that setUp two times and Ajax now prefers to be alone with me.

i can move my hand along Ajax’ cheek but am not quite to his tag string yet. I hope to get there one of these days as it’s in front of his ears and tighter than i think is fair over his big chunky cheeks.

Sinnerman, the wild one, will sidle up to me and take alfalfa hay from my hand. He still is jumpy, but not the reactive-as-heck guy he once was. Which makes all the other three a LOT more serene lately. What is sort of funny is that Sinnerman, who is obviously the big man in this group, will not approach me directly/head-on to take a handful of hay, he moves sideways, doesn’t make direct eyecontact until i wave the hay at him and say his name. Then, after i ask, he makes eye-contact and steps sideways to me to take a handful of alfalfa. He used to grab and run!! Now, he reaches out, takes, and steps back quietly. Tis a big advance! So…perplexing to me is the intention of him. As the clear leader of this group (and possibly from having been top-stud in his herd?…or at least a dominant position in a bachelor group?…for 10 or 12 years!) he understands the value of the correct approach to another top personality? Maybe i’m giving myself too much credit here….but i think this is the it-of-it. And it’s FASCINATING!!

Warlock really really knows his name, and if the other two big geldings have their mouths full, he will come up to me when called and take a handful of alfalfa. As soon as they each become willing to be in the training stall with me all alone, i feel i can move along pretty well with him. He is smart, but being low-man in the group, he is wary.

No mention of Whisper because Sinnerman still won’t let her near me. He owns her. Some day soon, i will be able to enclose Sinnerman inside the stall…maybe with Ajax… and be able to work with her …comfortable and not alone in the company of Warlock. I think all i need is to get some alfalfa from my hand into her mouth once. She def makes some serious eyecontact. She also knows her name. I have a feeling there is a good deal of intelligence behind those eyes of hers.

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8 Mustangs all at once? That is quite the task. What are your plans for them when they are trained or gentle enough to start training?

Sounds like they are all responding wonderfully.

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yes, kinda ‘at once’…they are all somewhere along the gentling continuum, and i do something with each of them daily. My hope is to have one or two of them as a dressage pony or horse. My goal is to saddle train 6 or seven. i THINK least one will not be rideable…as she is too small for even me to ride. She’ll be a pasture pet. My intention is to have them join my domestic horses and eventually, i’ll divide them into easy-keeper and normal eating. Other than that, nothing really…no real plans. IF Covid ever ends and our little equine SAR unit gets up-n-going they could potentially be a mount for a search and rescue rider. There are a couple of folks who can ride, but that don’t have horses of their own. Mostly i got them to learn them, and to train, as that is what i love to do.

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I wish you had been around when I had my mustangs. Maybe it would have turned out better. And what!!?? No pictures or did I miss that day in class? :slight_smile:

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A horse convinced against her will is of the same opinion still. I have two that are hard nuts to crack. This is one of them. Winning his cooperation may take a very long time, but, to ME, the process …that is the fun part.

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Rizada is the second most intelligent horse i’ve ever had. (18h percheron the smartest) But she is also reasonable…and self-reliant. She came to me right after having been caught and what many of the mustangs learn in holding, she missed. (to live without freedom). She is four, so still growing, and becoming quite soft, pliant. We have moved very slowly together. For me, this careful progress is my nirvana…

It’s the journey, not the destination.

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Tovah and Steve. I’m guessing Steve will be under saddle this Spring.

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I’ve never heard of R+ training. Seems to be working for you. They are all gorgeous!

I like Sinnerman. Very cute but I see his attitude. Who is the grey? So cute, but I am a schmoo for a grey…lol

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Appreciate this post and please keep checking in with updates. Funny because I was listening to an interview between Patrick King and Mustang Maddy when I came across your post. I’ve been exploring R+ for 6 mos at least and cannot believe the positive change in my mare who came to me traumatized and in pain. She follows me around now and keeps her attention on me. Doesn’t want to leave anymore. Used to charge at me in the pasture and now ears forward most of the time.

I’ve come to think of R+ like what agility training does for dogs. I’ve never done it but struck by the attention/focus between the handler and dog.

I’m down a BIG wabbit hole with it all and I’ll never be the same. WHY, WHY in 50 yrs of horse ownership/riding didn’t I run into all this years ago? In fact, I find talking about/using R+ to be kind of heresy in the horse world. THEN, to see what Maddy has accomplished and is doing. Blows me away.

AND, I’d like to get a mustang. So you inspire me. Your mustangs are VERY pretty.

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Gray boy is Steve. He is the furthest along. Today was a good day for him…he walked with me on lead across a creek and over some mounds of gravel. We met the big gate going out into their (future) pasture. He also got to meet woven-wire fencing and smell it. He is 8. Was not gelded til he was 7. He’s quite mild around the mares.

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Good boy, Steve? (Why Steve?)

Do you know where any of them came from?

Steve told us his name. Both of us, independently, thought of that name for him. Yes, i know where of the mustangs came from. Steve came from Beatys Butte HMA (in Oregon) So did Warlock. Sinnerman, Ajax and Whisper came from Warm Springs HMA (in Oregon). Fae came from Antelope Valley, NV. Rizada is from Fish Creek (one of the curly herds). And Tovah, my beautiful Tovah, is from Eagle HMA in Nevada.

I wonder what their make up is? How much Tb or Morgan or draft. I had a mare out of Northern CA by Alturas and she looked very Arab except for the big ol head and appy eyes. Also very sweet but could be stubborn as hell. Her daughter made mules look like amateurs.

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there is a facebook group of folks who have DNA testing done on their mustangs and share the results. By the looks of one of mine, i’m going with a significant amount of draft horse. The others…just as undecipherable as a well mixed grade. Except they all seem to have higher cheekbones, thick legs and big hooves.

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Can we see more of Tovah?

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here is a link to Tovah’s page on the BLM site. (i know it says incomplete adoption, they are really really far behind on their paperwork as i picked her up Dec 1). If you want you can clickOn the video icon and watch her move.

https://wildhorsesonline.blm.gov/animals/16627404

You have a lot of animals, eight pond. How do you keep up with cleaning, feeding, vaccinations, etc…? Do you have ranchhands? I’m really impressed. I have smaller numbers of a variety of livestock and horses and it gets complicated.

Congratulations on the Mustangs!

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been doing it for 20 years…it’s not so bad, i just work hard, don’t take vacations and don’t socialize. We live a quiet farm life.

She is beautiful - her head is stunning! Can you take us through how many animals you do have? Were you the one cleaning and drying your many oriental rugs?