My Dog has Epilepsy

Woke up to my dog having a seizure at 3:06 this morning. It lasted under a minute. She was then spacey for a couple of minutes. Then she got up and was a bit disoriented and confused. It took a good 1 1/2 hours for her to be normal .

She seemed fine later as we were doing chores. I called the vet and got her a 10:15 appointment. At 9:20 am she had another. It lasted maybe 20 seconds and she was her old self almost immediately. Vet did blood work to rule out anything else and said it was most likely epilepsy and that it is very common. That was my first thought, and now I am on pins and needles waiting to see if we have another seizure.

My girl is 3 1/2. This is hard. What are your experiences?

Seizures can have several causes, but many times, in dogs, it is idiopatic.

Epilepsy is rather common in all dogs.
Generally it starts at two and some dogs barely have a halting step, or crooked gait, or get stiff for a few seconds, to those like yours, that seize completely and are later out of it for a bit.

I don’t know today, but some years ago, the protocol was to have the dog examined to rule out other possible causes for the seizures and chart what kind and how often those happened.

At a certain threshold, so many of this or that kind and depending on how ofter, the dog may be medicated.

From may dogs we had over many years, we had two have seizures.
One rottie, we had been showing her in conformation and obedience and one early morning she started seizing and it lasted several minutes, then she was out of it for some more minutes.
That kept happening frequently over the next hour, how long it took us to get her to the vet, that kept her in his clinic office and was treating her aggressively with fluids and medication.
He never could find any reason for the seizures, everything else checked out fine.
He commented that it was scary to have a big dog as she was, in a crate in the room, trashing in there violently.

Once stable, he sent her home with medication and, on full medication, she was a zombie.
After a month, he started us tapering the medication to try to give her a better quality of life and when we were at half, she started again having seizures one morning early, we took her right in and she died as we got to the hospital.:cry:
We later found two of that litter had also died from seizures and half that litter had seizures.
The breeder was one of the best in the USA, with imported, many titled dogs, that were known for being very sound and long lived.
A friend was getting started in rotties and gave her to us.
The breeder kept watching other litters and said no other litter had problems.:confused:

That is not very common, whatever caused her seizures was in a part of her brain that evidently was important to proper homeostasis and that, the vet thought, is what killed her.

Then this dog I have now, at two started having the light seizures, where she would stop while doing something, maybe one leg stretched out in midair, stand there dazed, then in a few seconds come out of it and continue doing what she was doing.

Our vet took some videos and put them up on VIN and specialists looked at them and told us what to do about it.
She was on medication for seizures for two years, then our vet started tapering it off and she has been off medication four years.
We were warned they probably would come back as she got older, but as now eight years old, they are not back, yet.

So, you can see, whatever kinds of seizures your dog has, first the vet has to figure which kind they are, then what to do about it and, well, it can be anything, from the very serious to something very easy to treat.

A friend had a golden with seizures and she was a multiple MACH agility dog, also obedience and field titled.

Hers were first controlled with medication, then medication tapered off and they figured it was tied in to low blood sugar, so as long as she had something to eat within three hours, she would not have seizures.
If she didn’t get to eat for longer than that, seizures were apt to happen.
For her, it was a question of management with food, not medication.

Hope your dog’s vet will help you get your dog’s seizures figured out.

I had a Sheltie who had seizures as a puppy, and then it got less and less frequent as he aged.

The best thing was to speak calmly and pet him or just ‘be there’ – staying clear of his face in case he inadvertently snapped his mouth shut. He usually threw up about a half an hour after a seizure, then would return to normal.

We never found a cause, and the seizures were never frequent enough to want to try any medication for them.

The worst thing was the lack of puppy socialization because we were afraid to take him out and possibly trigger a seizure. :confused:

It’s scary at first, but once you learn the signs that one is coming on, and how to deal with it, it gets easier.

My little guy has seizures and he’s about 4 1/2. I don’t know when they started though because he’s a shelter dog. We didn’t know that when I took him in as a foster, he had one about a week later while at the vet’s waiting to be neutered.

His seizures are easily controlled with medication. He was originally on Phenobarbital and needed to have his blood checked every six months to make sure his liver was fine. We have now switched to a newer (to dogs) one called Keppra and he’s been doing great.

If your dog does need medication and is food motivated, it’s very easy to wrap a bit of cheese around the pill and you’re done. Mine is not food motivated, so if he doesn’t feel like eating the cheese, I also have a liquid version as a back up.

He had no side effects from either drug.

Good luck with your pup. It’s so very scary to watch them have a seizure. :frowning:

Also, when a dog is having a seizure, try to leave it alone, don’t talk or touch or move it, because any you do may just keep the seizure activity going and you want it to stop as soon as possible.

Only if it is where it can get harmed, then you have to do what you have to do to keep it safe.

Trying to comfort a dog that is not consciously aware of what is going around it and is reactive to any external stimuli is not doing anything for the dog at best, or adding to it’s problems.

I know someone who had a dog that seized and was then diagnosed with Rocky Mountain …something tick borne? And seizures can also be related to fever, of course. Did your vet test for tick-borne diseases?

I don’t know anything else about epilepsy, but hope that maybe there is something else that could be the (treatable) cause.

Make sure you have her thyroid tested too. Usually a vet will wait to see if it was a one time event.

Jingles.

Fish oil capsules. 1 a day. About 500 IU. Over the years have had several Shelties (3) that had mild to very bad (several times a day) seizure issues. Fish oil capsules stopped those epileptic occurances dead cold, and they don’t come back as long as the dog is getting the oil.

Sorta on the same principle as Lorenzo’s Oil.

If your dog has had more than 1 seizure, I would definitely recommend getting an apt with a neurologist. Your dogs signalment is pretty common for juvenile epilepsy and they likely wont require diagnostics (just neuro exam). However, important things to rule out in young dogs are liver shunts - they are rare in large dogs but treatment with antiepileptic drugs will not help in this situation.

A good relationship with a neurologist is key - they are the best ones to figure out which medications are right for YOUR dog, tapering regimes and discussing important things such as breakthrough seizures with you.

Generally the drugs of choice are phenobarbital, keppra and potassium bromide. Most regular vets prescribe phenobarbital to start with as its an old “tried and true” AED. However its important to monitor liver values with this drug. Some neurologists are totally on board with keppra alone, and others like a combination of 2 or even 3 AED’s depending on the types of seizures, how frequently you can administer and your financial restraints etc.

I honestly would book an apt with one, it should prob cost around $100-$135 (generally) for a 1 - 2 hour discussion/exam for your pet. Have your regular vet send over all the recent bloodwork. You likely will walk out with a lot more knowledge, no further diagnostics, and a medication regime that will work into your lifestyle/budget and of course a relationship where you can call/get advice from the neurologist as needed :wink:

[QUOTE=jenm;7473634]
My little guy has seizures and he’s about 4 1/2. I don’t know when they started though because he’s a shelter dog. We didn’t know that when I took him in as a foster, he had one about a week later while at the vet’s waiting to be neutered.

His seizures are easily controlled with medication. He was originally on Phenobarbital and needed to have his blood checked every six months to make sure his liver was fine. We have now switched to a newer (to dogs) one called Keppra and he’s been doing great.

If your dog does need medication and is food motivated, it’s very easy to wrap a bit of cheese around the pill and you’re done. Mine is not food motivated, so if he doesn’t feel like eating the cheese, I also have a liquid version as a back up.

He had no side effects from either drug.

Good luck with your pup. It’s so very scary to watch them have a seizure. :([/QUOTE]

She had her 3rd seizure yesterday at 4:45. My vet said if she had another to call and that we needed to put her on phenobarbital. I went and got it right away. Thankfully she seems to have stopped seizing on her own for now. I know it takes up to a week for the meds to kick in. We were all exhausted last night ! She slept like a rock and every time I heard her or my other dog move ( they sleep on a dog bed on my side) I looked to see if anything was happening. So for now I will keep her on it and look to maybe wean her off slowly sometime down the road. She is a wonderful dog and we love her to pieces and want her to be comfortable. She takes her pill in anything I offer-- she is very food motivated!

Thanks for the advice everyone.