Hi folks, I’ve lurked in this forum for years, thanks for having me. I just had a great tail ride this evening in southern Michigan and I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on my horse’s background. He’s registered as a PSHR (pleasure saddle horse registry). I got him in Kentucky in April 2013 as a 10 yr old well trained trail horse from a trader. That he has been; especially as i prefer to just ride out alone when possible. I always thought of this horse as 95% twh when i’ve researched some of the sires listed in his registration papers and this may be correct. But, I was researching rocky mountain horses and Kentucky mountain saddle horses this weekend and of course came across the famous, beautiful stallion Tobe. come to find out Tobe is listed as a 3rd generation sire on my trail horse’s registration! I remember the seller of this horse telling me my horse was a hybrid (I was completely new to gaited horses when i got this boy 5 yrs ago) but it makes sense, this trail horse of mine may be more of an old KY mountain horse origin than a variation of twh? the breeder on the registry is listed as Jimmy King, Nicholasvile, KY. is anyone able to shed light? the sires in that 3rd (or is it 4th?) generation listed on the papers for my horse’s dad (listed as twh) are: Rodger’s Perfection, Diamond Jim, Mountain Man, Tobe. His mums side sires listed as kentucky natural gaited are: Midnight doll, Merry Walker, Lady Lee and Flaxey Allen C. … so fascinating, if anyone has info to share i’d really appreciate, thanks!
All of the middle-country horses are kissing cousins, out of Holler by Pig Trail. Enjoy your horse 
Weird comment.
No, it’s a Kentucky/TN twist on the old QH joke, out of Oklahoma by Trailer maybe you haven’t heard that before.
New twist on old joke, but some truth. There was a time, not so long ago, when paper’s fraud was pandemic. Even got a Walker WGC. More than once I was “cold called” asking if we had any Walker papers for sale when we had them. Usual offer was $100.00. Never sold or bought any!!! 
Blood typing in Walkers was a revelation; DNA testing even more so. Since most of the “Mountain” horses have some their roots in the Walker world it’s likely they were the product of a similar milieu.
The fraud has been damped down some by DNA testing but I don’t know if all breeds do it. If they don’t then you’re literally at the mercy of the breeder for both honesty and care.
G.
