"Natural Horsemanship" trainer -- my good story

First thing, my trainer is NOT a Parelli type, not a slick huckster. She is a long time horse woman, well recommended by traditional trainers for certain situations like mine. She has studied with Buck Brannaman and others like him. She is the real deal.

Anyway, some may recall that we had hoped to take our little Arab, Rocky, and let our granddaughter ride him in Pony Club. Rocky had always been a safe “bombproof” trail horse, so we thought he would be a safe, sane mount for a child … even if not terribly talented.

Boy were we wrong! Rocky is only “bombproof” when doing as he pleases. When pushed or directed, he became very upset and erratic. We tried a “traditional” trainer and he wore her out, they got nowhere except she bedraggled and him belligerent, angry and downright dangerous. I did not know what to do with him. I didn’t even like him anymore!

Fortunately, traditional trainer recommended the natural horsemanship trainer (though everyone hates the term, don’t have a better one). She took Rocky right back down to basics, basically restarting him as if he were a baby colt. BTW, he is about 16 or 17!

Due to our hectic schedules, it’s taken longer than planned because I couldn’t get him over there for “horse school” as often as we wanted. But the transformation in my little horse is unbelievable! I feel so bad that this sweet little fellow was pushed beyond his understanding and to the point that he had to strike back to protect himself. I suspect he had 60 days training 150 years ago, and since he is a good guy and sane, he has just gotten by all these years not really understanding much, but doing his best. Like someone who can barely read, but manages to cope by picking up context.

Anyway, he is back under saddle now, calm and happy. Gone are the pinned ears, the wild eyes, choppy trot, bracing and zoning out. He is almost a pocket pony, he is engaged and listening. He is soft and willing. He THINKS. He stays calm. Yesterday, when getting off the trailer, with two horses loaded, I somehow got myself twisted about and tripped. Rocky was so calm. He just relaxed and waited for me to straighten myself out, no rushing, snorting or wild eyes. When I got myself together, he finished backing out like nothing happened.

He is just a better horsey citizen all the way around. He is happier and so are we.

Just wanted to share in case this might help someone else who is at wit’s end with a horse. Not all natural trainers are lunatics. Not all difficult horses are lost. We are getting our happy ending.

That’s a great success story. It sounds like you made a good decision and Rocky and your family are benefitting from it!

I too cringe at the term NH and immediately think of the marketing machines.
Truth be told, there are excellent horse people out there who don’t fall under the umbrella of traditional nor NH trainers.

Glad to hear Rocky has benefited from a solid horsewoman. I’ve had the pleasure of working with Crissi McDonald (Mark Rashid’s wife) on a regular basis. Better horse people I have not met.

It’s simply, if only we’d slow down and pay attention. I’ve learned to watch and pay attention to very subtle details. My horse appreciates that ‘I get it’. The work is in addition to my traditional Dressage instructor. Horse and I are more focused and relaxed. My cues are no longer kick/squeeze, but rather feel the right time and ask by thinking about it. Sure, my body does something, and the horse picks up on it, but invisible aids for sure.

I remember Reiner Klimke talking about invisible aids. Perhaps in 100 or so years I could ride like him? Ah… maybe not.

What a great story. I had the opportunity to spend a bit of time with a couple of prominent dressage competitors in Wellington a while back. They spoke of sending their youngsters and fried horses out for NH training and rehab on a regular basis. This was to Buck Brannaman people. I’ve seen some remarkable transformations. Glad Rocky is a happier camper now.

Just curious to hear if this is a self professed “natural horsemanship trainer” or if the title has been bestowed upon her?

She is just a trainer. She does not use the term “natural horsemanship.” Same as a “traditional” trainer would not say, “I am a traditional horse trainer.” But others use the term to describe what she does. When the traditional trainer referred her, she said, “I think you should talk to this person. I have seen her get good results. She takes a different approach. It is sort of like natural horsemanship.” I was wary when I first met her because I did not want to start playing games with my horse! So, no, she does not have a Natural Horsemanship sticker on her truck or anything.

So glad for you and your horse. :slight_smile:

Do you think it would be more nearly correct to call it “californio” or “vaquero” style horsemanship? My trainer certainly uses those concepts, but most of her students are showing in the hunters. No bosals, no mecates, and most certainly no cows to be found. :lol:

Smiling broadly for Rocky!

Those good trainers were around long before the marketing machine discovered them and coined the term, I hope they will outlast the fad.

Kind of like what I felt when I red the Monty Roberts book: there wasn’t a lot of revolutionary stuff in there for me, as we had been ‘gentling’ horses all along. Some of his observations were interesting though.

Good for you to have one of the good ones in your area! :cool:

Good for you to realize what he needed. Who knows how many horses are just like him?

I have to admit that I did not know what he needed. So grateful for the first trainer to realize she did not know how to handle him and to graciously make the referral and introduction. That is real class!

I felt I / we had pushed Rocky too hard, too fast – but traditional trainer said, “I don’t think we have pushed him hard enough.” So – she was really wrong about him, and my instincts were right. But I only had instinct and no insight. Her instincts about Rocky were wrong, but she had the insight to realize she was getting nowhere and she knew of someone who seemed to be able to get results.

Rocky was telling us that we just could NOT push him any more. He didn’t understand. He was scared and angry and he just couldn’t handle it anymore.

Bless his heart.

He wasn’t lazy or stubborn. He was just in way over his head. He had been doing things mechanically, the right things most of the time, but not because he understood them. I don’t think he really even understood yielding to pressure. Like, on the ground, if you’d try to push him out of your way, he would push right back at you. He knew if you put your outside leg on him that he should go the opposite way, but he didn’t understand the whole yield-to-pressure concept. Does that make sense?

Now, he’s got it. You don’t have to push on him to get him to move. You just ask. It’s hard to explain, but it’s just so so much better.

I don’t want to take any credit. Honestly, I did not know what to do with him. This has been a journey along which I have learned a LOT.

I call those horses an x years old, can be in his 20’s, green horse.

There are plenty of those around.
Glad that you took him on and decided, when he was showing you what he was, looked to remedy that the best way, getting him the right help, even if it took several trainers to find one for him.

This is a great bit of good news. I had heard good things about her from others also.

Thanks for clarifying - I dislike when people refer to me as a “natural horsemanship trainer.”
To me it’s more “common sense training.” :slight_smile:

Yes, certain high-profile trainers have coined the “natural horsemanship” term and have sort of cast a shadow of suspicion on all those wonderful trainers who are remarkably good at breaking down training into simple steps or building blocks using their innate understanding of horse behavior.

How fortunate Rocky is that you were willing to spend that time to allow the right trainer to bring out his potential. I sent a difficult horse to a man in my area once who was known for being a gifted cowboy-type trainer and usually was used as the “hail mary” option for people who were ready to give up with their troubled horses (if only they would send horses to him first!). I remember that I had to wait six months for a training spot to open up, and I was impatient to get him there. My equine dentist, knowing the quality of this man’s training, wisely reminded me that six months was a short time to wait to have training that would build a solid foundation for a horse’s lifetime.

I recall when I was ready to bring the horse home (and the trainer had had me come up every day for a week to work with him and the horse to train me), he told me that, if I continued to consistently use the methods he had shown me, that I would have a really fabulous horse by the time he was 10 (he was six at the time). That struck me as a little odd. But you know what? He was right. By the time that horse was 10, he was broke to death and I could do anything I wanted with him, as long as I always reminded him I was his leader :wink:

These horsemen are true gems. So glad you found one!

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Thanks for clarifying - I dislike when people refer to me as a “natural horsemanship trainer.”
To me it’s more “common sense training.” :)[/QUOTE]

Ditto.:yes:

Great news, KR! Glad Rocky is understanding better, and I’m sure he’s glad the humans finally quit ‘mumbling and yelling’ at him.

Hoover is much the same way, he’s been working probably for a dozen years or more but he hasn’t been TAUGHT much. I joke that I’m not learning about vaquero training to train him - I’m taking Speech Therapy myself!

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I joke that I’m not learning about vaquero training to train him - I’m taking Speech Therapy myself![/QUOTE]

No joke, and bears repeating!

I really havent gotten over the first horse trainer admitting she couldnt fix him! Astounding! Really! Who does that?! How fabulous for you that not only did you and Rocky get what he needed to progress… but your first trainer was honest. I say this without the slightest bit of irony. If my friends had horses of the type the first horse trainer could work with… I sure would be recommending that trainer. and telling her why. Not everyone has the tools for every job. Im so impressed that you both recognized Rocky wasnt being helped.~ and got him what he needed.

Good horsemanship is good horsemanship. Most do not want to be associated with the term natural.

“Natural horsemanship” is an oxymoron like “jumbo shrimp” or “reality TV.” :wink:

“Good horsemanship,” on the other hand, is not.

G.